Nvidia Ampere Discussion [2020-05-14]

Probably not in stock anyway. Nvidia webpage in germany lists 3080 as not available.

 

I know some folks that got orders in though no one who I know bought from nvidia store.

edit. Probably this supply in, supply gone will keep happening just the same as with turing launch. Though my gut feeling is ampere is more in demand, turing wasn't the best proposition with no games using the new features and dlss1.0 being really bad.

 

This looks more like a disguised paper launch.

 

Well. Bye.

 

Go check what's happening with ps5 preorders. It's a real launch with products out there but due to real world issues in how manufacturing chips and products work the initial supply tends to be low while initial demand is high. Things will settle out over time, demand lowers and product availability gets higher.

 

Minimum metal pitch is probably the closest we have to a rough density metric between different nodes.

I would agree about not being able to compare anymore.
AMD likely was unable to use the full benefit of TSMC 7nm with RDNA1 while Nvidia has the ability to customize the Samsung 8nm process to a degree.

 

https://videocardz.com/press-release/nvidia-sli-support-transitioning-to-native-game-integrations

It's dead, Jim.

 

Not surprising. End of an era.

 

I was just at my local Best Buy store, and unlike the last two releases, they had received no stock. It was an online sale apparently, and they sold out immediately. I had applied to be notified about availability, and I checked after midnight and the Founders Edition was still "Notify Me" only.
Never notified, never any in store stock, this was not the best way to handle limited inventory. Great way to drum up desirability, and fend off interest in AMD's upcoming challenger, and I suppose all will be forgiven if nVidia can supply the demand without people having to hover over their keyboards while waiting for the click of the hour.

 

I tried to get one from bestbuy web pages. Search broke so I wasn't able to find the cards. By the time search worked everything was gone.

 

Density indeed seems ok. But I don't think you can necessarily discern the quality of the node based on the resulting product. The architecture itself also influences how dense you can be on a node. Additionally, density itself does not really give you any indication regarding other important factors like heat generation or yields. Samsung's 8nm is supposedly cheaper for a reason, I presume.

As a side-note, The Radeon VII is around 40MT/mm2, the 5700XT is 41MT/mm2 as you mentioned, and the XSX is around 42.5 MT/mm2. There is constant improvement here, on the same node. Granted, the XSX chip is not directly comparable to a standalone GPU, but still...

 

3080 became available in finnish nvidia webpage about 10 minutes ago. You might get lucky if you try german store now. Or perhaps cards are already gone.

 

3090 or bust (or Big Navi)

 

So, $600 for a 10GB 3080 at the end of October?

 

Another 10GB is going to add non trivial power consumption. The 10GB 3080 is pushing the envelope as is.

 

More likely to be $900 for 3080 20GB.

 

So... AMD will be late to the party by announcing their cards only on October 28th and probably making them available in November. OTOH, looking at the availability numbers it doesn't look like nVidia will be selling a whole lot of RTX 3080 cards in the meantime.

 

Sure, for a few days. Next week and beyond is a different matter.

 

Do you expect AMD availability to be significantly better post launch?