NPD May 2008
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Ooops, my bad. I guess sales really dropped off. Still a good month.
Comparing the numbers, GTA4 / HW sales / HW LTD:
PS3 is selling proportionally more software units of GTA4, and it is selling more hardware too. I think there's a connection here - Nico is moving some hardware in the end...
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PS3 442.9K / 208.7K / 4,447,200
X360 871.3K / 186.6K / 10,272,200PS3 is selling proportionally more software units of GTA4, and it is selling more hardware too. I think there's a connection here - Nico is moving some hardware in the end...
Well, it's not the explosive numbers people were expecting/wanting. It may be moving some hardware, but not huge numbers.
But not much. Certainly not the flood of upgrading PS2 owners that people like Pachter predicted would accompany GTA.
Also, I've seen much greater pro-PS3 splits with some other games, like Assassins Creed. Most of the PS3 userbase is newer (all it's sales are at least one year newer than 360) so you tend to see greater than install base sales on PS3, but 360 GTA is still winning in US nearly 2-1, which is better than I expected personally. In UK 360 has a significant hardware lead but not much of a GTA lead, for example
Also, it's been pointed out last years May NPD was something like 338k Wii, 155k 360, and 82k PS3. So in reality all hardware is up.
Yeah, prices are down quite a bit and there's more games. All the systems have something worth playing, so it's not surprising they're all doing pretty well. Well, the Wii would be a surprise if you'd said it would sell like this before launch, but now these monthly numbers are run of the mill.
Europe only gives rankings, no numbers.From week 23Thanks, no Europe numbers ?
Laa-Yosh said:
I mostly agree with this but there's always going to be the odd person drawn in by the hype, but as I said above I expect nothing more than a moderate increase, and mostly due to the walmart (and price matches) deal.
That's the thing though - in my opinion most of the games that both Sony and Nintendo have been saying will be the next big thing are really just sequels and old concepts redone with tweaks and better graphics. Look at my 360 games list thread in the games forum - pretty much all the games I'm looking forward to (based on being the best games I can see released) are sequels, with precious little being new IPs or something completely different.
Nintendo on the other hand - while having a healthy helping from the "Nintendo family" - are definitely the ones offering up brand new goodness which is bringing in gamers who want something genuinely new, and not just last gen's titles done better. While the games certainly aren't all to my taste (Wii Fit, Wii Play, Wii Sports, etc) I can see why they are the ones doing so well and converting last gen to next gen.
There are of course exceptions - Uncharted, Gears, LBP, hopefully Too Human - but the vast majority of people's "want" list are sequels. Am I alone in thinking this isn't a good thing for Sony and MS?
Forgetting about the Wal-Mart action, I think one can expect for the MGS4 PS3 bundle to do quite well also. With that one it goes beyond simply the game itself.
Anyway GTAIV, I agree with the people saying that the time they bought there consoles was much earlier on in the cycle. I think a lot of the initial sales for both systems were frankly to people that weren't looking towards the games of the moment, but to the games of the future. Have to remember that purchasing patters are likely to reflect the increased wealth (and age) of the gaming demographics overall.
What's the spread as it stands now? I think it's a guarantee though.
Anyway GTAIV, I agree with the people saying that the time they bought there consoles was much earlier on in the cycle. I think a lot of the initial sales for both systems were frankly to people that weren't looking towards the games of the moment, but to the games of the future. Have to remember that purchasing patters are likely to reflect the increased wealth (and age) of the gaming demographics overall.
What's the spread as it stands now? I think it's a guarantee though.
I'd think that's still a moving target at this point, it's probably past Halo3 (but on two platforms). I dunno that its going to out do halo3 on 360 alone. It might catch cod4 assuming it has any kind of legs, cod4 had the advantage of a holiday release.
I'm sure GTA will do better in Europe if you're talking worldwide I'd expect it to pass them both easily.
Well yeah I was talking worldwide, and yeah I think it'd be a certainty. I should have specified though, because no doubt it's hard to keep track of when people are speaking NPD alone and when they've jumped to global.
Call of Duty 4 hit 10 million worldwide in June (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_of_Duty_4:_Modern_Warfare#Sales). Halo3 hit 8.1 million worldwide in January 2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_3#Sales). Not sure what the USA totals are, or if these numbers are trustworthy.
In 2007 it sold 3.04 million copies in the USA. Halo 3 sold 4.82 million in the USA 2007. Not sure if these numbers are trustworthy ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_in_video_gaming#United_States
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That's starting to look like Japan: "The press release noted that 19 of the top 30 games in May are for Nintendo systems."
Another interesting one: Said Sony Computer Entertainment America president Jack Tretton, "Leading into a pivotal season packed with blockbuster titles and unique online service offerings, consumers have chosen the PS3 as their home entertainment console of choice - showcased by its year-over-year sales growth of 155 percent.
--- Right, only because they sold a pitiful 82k last May. That's an impressive spin.
Microsofts NPD PR calls out E3, a pretty drastic step imo
http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/16797/May-2008-NPD-Microsofts-Take/
Ninja Blade? Motion controller? Price drop? All possible/likely candidates imo.
Last year MS cut the price in time for Madden in early August. Considering E3 is in mid-july, it's possibly not too early.
http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/16797/May-2008-NPD-Microsofts-Take/
Ninja Blade? Motion controller? Price drop? All possible/likely candidates imo.
Last year MS cut the price in time for Madden in early August. Considering E3 is in mid-july, it's possibly not too early.
There's a few other possible titles, such as Alan Wake, I don't think a motion controller would generate much excitement really unless they're hiding some AAA titles to go with it. A price drop would certainly be interesting, but the way they've been playing this gen (very conservative) I don't expect anything drastic.
Oh I'm expecting a 80-100 drop. Just whether in fall or sooner.
They could also announce 60GB premium or something like that (some old rumor claimed it was supposed to be done June 31..it was wrong). Wi-fi in Elites, Blu Ray elite (doubtfull, too early) and other speculated hardware changes, to go along with other stuff.
Alan Wake I guess is possible to show, but it's def a 2k9 title now.
They could also announce 60GB premium or something like that (some old rumor claimed it was supposed to be done June 31..it was wrong). Wi-fi in Elites, Blu Ray elite (doubtfull, too early) and other speculated hardware changes, to go along with other stuff.
Alan Wake I guess is possible to show, but it's def a 2k9 title now.
The only way MS will drop $100 is if they can still make money on the hardware at that price, which I think would take a node shrink. Their goal is having the division be profitable, I don't expect them to do anything to jeopardize that.
Blu-ray makes no sense to me at all, at best it would be a curiosity like the halo edition or the hddvd drive. I think they've been burned on that enough.
Blu-ray makes no sense to me at all, at best it would be a curiosity like the halo edition or the hddvd drive. I think they've been burned on that enough.