NPD February 2007

kia said:
Not really if you have the full data. For example:

System - Unit Sales - Monthly Tie-ratio
PS3 - 455,056 - 3.574
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NPD attach rate, which I posted, is US only. PS3 may have sold 455k consoles in February worldwide. They didn't come anywhere close to that in the US.
 
I can post the full numbers for PS3 and Wii plus top 30 for other platforms in a matter of days (I have them now but I'm not allowed to post them) and then you can see for yourself.
 
Natoma said:
NPS3 may have sold 455k consoles in February worldwide.
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How?? US is ~130K, Japan is ~82K, Canada is 6K, so it's 220-230K at most. Or is it also available on another planet, or a different plane of existance?

I think that 455K is for software sales, if you divide it by 130K you'll get kia's ~3.57 tie ratio.
 
Natoma said:
NPD attach rate, which I posted, is US only. PS3 may have sold 455k consoles in February worldwide. They didn't come anywhere close to that in the US.
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455k is the number of games that sold on the PS3, the number of consoles sold was 127,321 which was posted a few times here by various members.
 
But monthly average (or LTD) might be a more moderated way of looking at numbers though. Specific month attach ratio is highly skewed by hits/new software released that month (so I'm not too sure if it's a useful indicator)... but we shall see, as I mentioned, over a few more months (best is until 1 year or more).

EDIT: Ironically, the specific month attach ratio may even by helped by the lower hardware unit sales this month for PS3. Stretch it out longer to see a more normalized picture.
 
patsu said:
But monthly average (or LTD) might be a more moderated way of looking at numbers though. Specific month attach ratio is highly skewed by hits/new software released that month (so I'm not too sure if it's a useful indicator)... but we shall see, as I mentioned, over a few more months (best is until 1 year or more).

EDIT: Ironically, the attach ratio may even by helped by the lower hardware unit sales this month for PS3. Stretch it out longer to see a more normalized picture.
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yea, to me the attach ratio is only really valuable LTD.

although it's nice to be able to look at trends if you like statistics. :smile:
 
kia said:
455k is the number of games that sold on the PS3, the number of consoles sold was 127,321 which was posted a few times here by various members.
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I don't see how 455k games were sold for PS3 in February when its biggest hit, by far, only sold ~70k, with nothing else in sight. Not to mention your attach rates are not what is being reported at Gamespot and Wired.
 
Laa-Yosh said:
How?? US is ~130K, Japan is ~82K, Canada is 6K, so it's 220-230K at most. Or is it also available on another planet, or a different plane of existance?

I think that 455K is for software sales, if you divide it by 130K you'll get kia's ~3.57 tie ratio.
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Ya, I got that after the fact. :)
 
Rolf N said:
The PS3 supplies were horrible at first, weren't they? Maybe you could talk me into believing they started easing up post-Xmas, but not earlier. Knock it down by a third if you must, but it's still par for the course.
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They aren't supply constrained now and haven't been for 2 months, and they haven't hit the 2 million mark yet. The Xbox 360 hit the 2 million mark without dropping below 40-50k units a week (I believe)...and actually, I don't know a month where they have fallen below 40-50k units per week. Here the PS3 is sitting at what, 25k units, supply isn't an issue and we're a mere 2 months from launch?
I didn't claim there was an upside. All I did claim was that price isn't so much of a deterrent for a piece of kit where you want to have a 600~800$ TV in your home before it even gets worth contemplating, and that the current sales numbers don't support such assumptions at all.
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I don't get the qualifier you are applying here. What does the cost of entry--an expensive HD set--have to do with comparing the sales of the PS3 with the intial sales of the Xbox 360 and saying, "It's doing as good as the Xbox 360"?
 
Natoma said:
I don't see how 455k games were sold for PS3 in February when its biggest hit, by far, only sold ~70k, with nothing else in sight. Not to mention your attach rates are not what is being reported at Gamespot and Wired.
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What is being reported at GS and Wired? 2.3 attach rate for PS3 in Feb?
 
Tap In said:
not if you're a publisher deciding who is buying the games.
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Does anyone honestly think a owner of one console somehow buys more or less games than another in the long run? Are their brains wired differently or do they have different incomes? Unless someone can explain it, it's just people spinning statistics to cheerlead, which is more or less what this whole thread is about. :D
 
oli2 said:
I think you are a bit unfair : you are comparing the sales of a console of which is currently in the way of finding its public in US, to those of a console which has just arose and currently have problems.

I think the contexts are different and we should not compare them.

In your arguments, you use the things positive towards one of them to question the weaks of the others.

Plus, you litteraly refuse to deal with the problems Xbox360 is facing :
- Penetration of "HD Gaming" as a whole.
- The fact that Wii's sales are flying past the other 2.

My point is : you keep on focusing on the battle occuring between those 2, ignoring the signal the public sent, which is quite strong. Who would have thought a few month ago that Wii could have sold 6M console by end of March ? We should start looking at things with both eyes and not only one ...
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I'm not ignoring it, Wii looks like it'll be a great success, but we'll have to see if it has legs for 5+ years.
 
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