I don't know if we'll be seeing a huge price cut, though. I think even $50 is iffy. I think the value-add idea with Natal is a lot more likely.
NPD December 2009
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I don't know if we'll be seeing a huge price cut, though. I think even $50 is iffy. I think the value-add idea with Natal is a lot more likely.
Sure theres always gonna be one off months (pricecuts will do this as well) Halo's gonna help less than natal, i.e. if you are into the halo franchise yould already be playing it and to do that you would have the console.
God of war's not going to make much difference to ps3 sales, perhaps a 100k lift (its too hardcore violent), though along with GT5 it will help.
next month IMO will be more interesting than christmas, Im guessing xbox360 ~260k, ps3 ~300k wii ~400k
FWIW jan 2009
wii 679200
xbox360 309000
ps3 203200
Wow, Nintendo pretty much killed it. So much for all the predictions of Wii finally slowing down or the "fad" wearing off. How long has the fad being going now? All it took was some side scrolling mario action, and they wiped the floor with everyone, by a mile.
I'm guessing next year will be almost exactly the same, regardless of what titles come out. We've had the same thing practically for several years now.
I'm guessing next year will be almost exactly the same, regardless of what titles come out. We've had the same thing practically for several years now.
I was worried about the little guys on PSN, especially PJ Shooter during the Dec period. The attention would be on the big titles. Looks like Sony did okay as a whole ?
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/december-is-playstation-networks-highest-revenue-month-to-date
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I have no idea why people want to worry for Wii. It may be less sexy technically, but Nintendo has not flexed their muscles yet since the Wii launch. The regular title releases (including Wii Music) and price drop are business as usual. Iwaata said they made a miscalculation and the Wii momentum cooled down. Am keen to see how he intends to warm it up again.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/december-is-playstation-networks-highest-revenue-month-to-date
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I have no idea why people want to worry for Wii. It may be less sexy technically, but Nintendo has not flexed their muscles yet since the Wii launch. The regular title releases (including Wii Music) and price drop are business as usual. Iwaata said they made a miscalculation and the Wii momentum cooled down. Am keen to see how he intends to warm it up again.
360 might just have thier best year in terms of exclusives and this time they are spread out fairly well so they might get dumps multiple times this year.
Also i doubt ms is unaware of what a new revision to the size and shape of the console does for sales. They've seen the ps1 , ps2 and now the ps3 all get a slim verison. I don't doubt that with natal we will also see a smaller 360 perhaps 45nm all the way through.
No one's saying they're not in good shape. I'm saying it's not a sustainable strategy, even Nintendo can't be guaranteed to pump out hits. Do you really think they're happy about how the first half of 2009 turned out? We have Iwata going on record several times that no, they're not, and that they should have planned better. And yet... well, there's little indication that they had anything in store besides NSMB Wii.
What if it had failed to drive interest, like was the case with Wii Music? Would we have continued to see sales drop YoY? Even if NSMBW's success was a given, can they guarantee a hit this year or will they actually shift strategies?
The point's that, even if Nintendo's in a unique place in that it actually can thrive solely on first-party support, we've heard from Iwata they'd like not to have to. (Though at this point, that ship might have sailed for this gen.)
amen, Nailed it, new super mario bros wii had a minor impact on wii sales figures in the US. (hell it 'only' sold 2.82 million, compare this to other hit games cod,halo,GTA etc which typically sell X times the number of consoles sold they certainly dont sell less than the number of consoles sold for the month)
The wii would of literally sold 5+million last december if it wasnt constrained by supply (+ they didnt have a recent released hit game, just the same old wiifit,mario kart, wiiplay etc, that seem to been in the top10 for years)
The reason why it would of sold so much (+ why I guessed the wii was gonna sell 4million this dec) was it is an ideal christmas gift, something to have a laugh with with the family, or heres help for you to lose your excess weight. The other times of the year, the majority of consoles are normally brought by a person for there own enjoyment.
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check the 3rd graph in first post
-16.64% mar 2009
-52.38%
-57.19%
-45.69%
-54.50%
-38.76%
-32.63%
-36.87% oct 2009 - price cut , yet it sells less than last year!!!!!
-38.24% nov 2009 - new mario bros but still sells less than last year
77.21% dec 2009 - christmas (would of been a drop if it wasnt supply constrained the previous year)
true even with these large YOY drops its still outselling the HD consoles
but to say the wii is in good shape for the rest of the year ignores the data
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I dont think Nintendos success this holiday season is down to NSMBW much at all. Wii is simply a great xmas present for anyone, the same cannot be said for PS3 or 360. If your thinking of getting a present for your grandparents, parents, nieces an nefews, brothers or sisters etc. Wii would be in the running when you may not even consider the other consoles if they are not a gamer. I expect wii to fall in line with the other consoles outside of gift giving periods though.
Well, only if you compare to the Wii itself. Even if this year they drop YoY I expect they'll still be on top of PS/360. Why should Nintendo's numbers be analysed by themselves when in fact they have higher margins? Nintendo's expectations have to be in absolute terms of course, but ours do not.
Anyway, like Carl I'm also contemplating a Wii (last console I owned - still do - was a SNES). The sole reason I haven't picked it up is because of the "Wii HD + DVD playback" rumours. If it wasn't for this, I'd pick one up right now just to play NSMBW.
About PS360, nice numbers but I'm much more surprised that CoD6 PS3 recovered so much; or is it that CoD6 XBOX numbers stopped being ridiculous?
The sales pattern is similar to Cod4 numbers, as in 360 version is more front loaded but after a couple of months the split becomes in line with respective userbases.
Maybe it is too early to tell. Let's see how NSMB Wii does on the charts, and let's see how Wii hardware fares in the upcoming months. I suspect that we'll see Wii be up over last year from March onwards, but if it's not I'll concede your point.
A fast look around various pre-order charts indicate that the PS3 version is out-numbering the 360-version basically everywhere, whatever pre-order top lists are worth when it comes to real sales. So yeah, you may have a points there.
It may also be the sum of all the sequels to wellknown high-quality titles that push hardware. FFX, GOW and GT all coming within a relative short time frame may have some impact.
ShadowRunner
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Anyway, like Carl I'm also contemplating a Wii (last console I owned - still do - was a SNES). The sole reason I haven't picked it up is because of the "Wii HD + DVD playback" rumours. If it wasn't for this, I'd pick one up right now just to play NSMBW.
Might be worth seeing how Gem turns out?
EDIT: Scratch that, Gem aint going to be an option if NSMBW is what you want one for
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If Nintendo's numbers drop by 50% from here on, they're still making a ton of money. I'm pretty confident they'll be able to keep selling at a good rate, all while making big money. How many have they sold world wide? 50 million? They're in a great spot. At some point it'll hit $100 and it'll sell like wildfire.
