I'm sure they are close to, if didn't break even already.No way they are close to breaking even with mere 325k LTD.
They also develop to-be-shared technology for PS3, you know.Hopefully the game is going to have some legs and their WW sales will eventually take them to a million units, where they should be about breaking even. ND have been working on Uncharted for almost 3 years and they are much bigger studio now (and have always been a premier operation).
ND are completely Sony owned studio so they can not do multiplatform even if they really wanted to.
Uncharted sold similar by userbase to Mass Effect. 300k>3m, 900k>9m. That makes it look a bit better. I dunno though, the lower the userbase, generally the higher percent you sell into.
You're right. At some point such ratios are ignored for overall volume. It'd be like saying madden sales on the PS2 are disappointing since it only did 2mil with a 40mil install base. Ratio wise, sure! but the absolute volume is so high that such ratios are not valid anymore.
Those ratios are certainly useless for weighing commercial success, however they should not be for people eager to criticize PS3 owners regarding poor sales of exclusives.
Uncharted is selling way better in Europe. i think they are around 800k-900k sold ww as of now.
According to Sonycowboy: UT3 at over 100k. 9th best PS3 title. 61st overall. There was a rumor about 109k on Gaf so I'll take that as valid.
Had Epic brought it out on the 360, carried the Gears hype and promoted it well, it'd be doing Gears numbers and giving CoD4/AC a good run. Instead, it took a dump.
Now with the "UT3 who?" stigma attached to it due to PS3 sales, I expect a similar flop on the 360 when it comes out. I expect them to work on Gears 2 now. They know who daddy is!
i wouldn't say terrible, but to each his own. PS3 probably did relatively well in europe, and obviously has a comfortable second place in Japan. as for coming close to the 360, i'd say ~800k isn't too far from 1.1m.
Yep, it's not going to be easy to sell something that's seen as something nobody wanted last year. They should make some significant changes and release it on the 360 as UT4.Now with the "UT3 who?" stigma attached to it due to PS3 sales, I expect a similar flop on the 360 when it comes out. I expect them to work on Gears 2 now. They know who daddy is!
Do you really think UT3 could do Gears numbers? It mighta been a million seller, but 4m I doubt. People seem really, really apathetic to the Unreal franchise of late, on PC as well. I dont think even games like Unreal Championship on Xbox sold well. That series is hurting.
if VGChartz was my source, i would have said 820k. but considering they have some reason to believe Uncharted is selling better in PAL regions, i think 800-900k ww is a safe bet.This is exactly why I wrote "fairty tale" in the first post.
Where is this 800-900k coming from? If it's VGchartz, no need to reply.
Those ratios are certainly useless for weighing commercial success, however they should not be for people eager to criticize PS3 owners regarding poor sales of exclusives.
we all knew the games that were coming for the PS3 and that a new 40GB SKU was coming... but who honestly thought the PS3 would outsell the 360 this holiday season, especially in the US... by far MS' strongest market? again, i'm not saying this was a successful holiday season... i'm just saying that Sony did all they could, and it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. their numbers aren't particularly good, but they aren't terrible imo.They are way off especially considering all that sony poured into the holidays. Price cut, AAA exclusives, new model and a 5 week NPD. I would say close to 30% less sales is very significant. Both MS and nintendo had shortages to add insult to injury. MS doing only ok still gained 450k on them this month.
Japan is meaningless to anything but the Wii and DS. There is not enough sales of the PS3 to support any real game development.
Has Epic resolved any user mod issues with MS ? In any case, Epic and Sony also fumbled in UT3 marketing (last minute changes in launch date, user mod tools not ready and clunky to deploy), so 109K sounds decent to me too.
As long as PS3 can garner enough momentum and its own user base, it will be a worthwhile platform. The collective game library will sell the console. If they get lucky with one or two system seller, then all the better.
I agree about the changes in launch date and the fact that I haven't seen a single comercial for it but were user mod tools really that important especially in a newly released game. If so it would be clear that UT3 is not for the average joe gamer which drove software sales this year.
My guess i sony and its hyping future games. People are putting off purchases because of it. While the activision was pushing is games like a mother this holiday season. The whole sony marketing team failed 2 great games in uncharted and r&c.