Next-Gen iPhone & iPhone Nano Speculation

During the Cyclone article, Anand said that making wider cores should bring little benefit. If he's right, then it's either that or more aggressive clocks.
Is it already rumoured to have a larger battery? because that seems the case with the CPU+GPU+Screen upgrades drawing more power.
The increase in the phone size will easily allow them more room to accommodate it.

I wonder how much this is going to affect it's weight.
 
I'd be happy with more RAM than anything else.

Of course the new iOS may require more resources to deliver the same level of snappiness.
 
Rumor-mill spinning says next iphone will be much thinner than today's 5S, of course meaning weight would be reduced. A larger screen would allow for a bigger battery, but larger screens also draw more power, so I would expect roughly the same level of battery life as today. Seems Apple has decided the current standard is "enough"...

For me personally it certainly is. I never run out, but then I'm not a very heavy user either.
 
Rumor-mill spinning says next iphone will be much thinner than today's 5S, of course meaning weight would be reduced. A larger screen would allow for a bigger battery, but larger screens also draw more power, so I would expect roughly the same level of battery life as today. Seems Apple has decided the current standard is "enough"...

For me personally it certainly is. I never run out, but then I'm not a very heavy user either.

Τhat's highly relative to the increase in screen size, how much power consumption can be saved due to a newer technology display and the battery size they'll use in the next iPhone. One more factor would be if they follow the same strategy as with A7; depending on POV one could say that the SoC is either oversized for the 5S or undersized for the iPad Air.

No idea what their plans are, but that "all for one" SoC strategy doesn't sound very reasonable to me.
 
All for one SoC was what the iPad launched with IIRC, the "X" version didn't come into play until the ipad 2 and 3 the way I recall it. Might be that designing the A7 was such an undertaking there just wasn't the time and/or resources to create an iPad-specific version.

Hopefully we get an "A8X" this year, with double-wide memory bus and all that jazz. :)
 
Well, just lost my iPhone 5 on an overseas trip.

So I'll have to use my upgrade on a 5S -- can't wait months for the next model.
 
Well, just lost my iPhone 5 on an overseas trip.

So I'll have to use my upgrade on a 5S -- can't wait months for the next model.

Months? The WWDC starts in less than a week..


I'd see that loss as the Universe telling you that you should try an Android flagship. :)
 
Maybe but after years of accumulating apps, setting my calendars, 1 password and so on, it would be a hassle to switch.
 
If they have the area and power budget to do that, then why not also improve on the CPU?
The GPU may be a bigger priority for Apple this round since the iPhone 6 is strongly rumored to come with a higher-resolution display. However I think the CPU will have at least a clock speed bump or something.

Months? The WWDC starts in less than a week..
The next iPhone might not be announced at WWDC and even if it did, there's no guarantee it will be released then.
 
Maybe but after years of accumulating apps, setting my calendars, 1 password and so on, it would be a hassle to switch.

Does that mean you're bound to use the very same smartphone line for the rest of your life, which gets only two different models to choose from every year, both from the same manufacturer?

That sounds really boring. ;)




The next iPhone might not be announced at WWDC and even if it did, there's no guarantee it will be released then.

It may not be announced, but I'd say it's still worth to wait a single week just to make sure before buying an expensive phone that could be having a much better successor for the same price within a couple of weeks.
 
I want something that works, don't care if others think it's boring.

If Android market share leads to a lot of useful software no longer being released on iOS, that would make me look hard at alternatives.

Never watch videos or play high end games on the phone, only iPad. I wouldn't mind a slightly larger screen but nothing like the Note.
 
That sounds really boring. ;)
How many models do you really need? Seriously. Apple's one model/year has been fine with me since 2010. (Although they did launch two models last year.)

Android is too fragmented (there's still devices running jellybean coming out for chrissakes), newer version support for your already purchased device is sketchy as hell, actually you might be fucked even as far as critical security updates go. I'd never jump on that ship even had I not sunk one penny into iOS apps (which I have.)
 
I want something that works, don't care if others think it's boring.

If Android market share leads to a lot of useful software no longer being released on iOS, that would make me look hard at alternatives.

Never watch videos or play high end games on the phone, only iPad. I wouldn't mind a slightly larger screen but nothing like the Note.
The next iphone is going to have a 4.7" screen, so a weeks wait for a potential announcement is worthwhile.
 
Good advice on waiting, though iPhone announcements have been occurring in September, not June, at a dedicated event rather than at WWDC.

They should show some previews of the next iOS ...
 
Silly me, I should've known better than to comment about android's diversity and freedom of choice in a thread about idevices...


How many models do you really need? Seriously. Apple's one model/year has been fine with me since 2010. (Although they did launch two models last year.)

Android is too fragmented (there's still devices running jellybean coming out for chrissakes), newer version support for your already purchased device is sketchy as hell, actually you might be fucked even as far as critical security updates go. I'd never jump on that ship even had I not sunk one penny into iOS apps (which I have.)

None of that is even remotely true for any flagship or GE device, but who am I to take you from your perfect path?

Looks like all smartphones have already been chosen for you, for the rest of your life.
Good for you, one less [strike]choice[/strike] thing to worry about!
:)
 
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Apple has improved CPU performance ~50~100% for years now, they probably will this round as well.

Yes in general that's been the case..but there are some notable exceptions. iPhone 3GS to iPhone 4 was quite conservative and was only a clock speed increase for the Cortex A8 from ~600 to ~800 mhz and if we're referring to single threaded performance only then iPhone 4 to 4S went up only marginally thanks to the move to Cortex A9. However as you say, since then it has gone up substantially every generation.

This time around I think they dont have as much scope to increase single threaded performance. Significant clock speed increases will be limited by power. So what do they do then? Staying at dual core with moderate architecture and/or clock speed improvements wont go too far. Quad core could well be possible. Or perhaps even a split SoC strategy with dual core for the phone and quad for the tablet. (Would be more optimal on the GPU front as well as arguably the iphone 5s was somewhat overpowered for its resolution)
Good advice on waiting, though iPhone announcements have been occurring in September, not June, at a dedicated event rather than at WWDC.

They should show some previews of the next iOS ...

Yea exactly..I was just going to say that. Until the iPhone 4 it used to be at WWDC..but since the 4S onwards..its always been around September.

Either ways..the rumours strongly suggest a 4.7" screen and surely the RAM has to be 2 GB. The CPU question remains..and there we're none the wiser.
 
Yes in general that's been the case..but there are some notable exceptions. iPhone 3GS to iPhone 4 was quite conservative and was only a clock speed increase for the Cortex A8 from ~600 to ~800 mhz and if we're referring to single threaded performance only then iPhone 4 to 4S went up only marginally thanks to the move to Cortex A9. However as you say, since then it has gone up substantially every generation.
From the iPhone 3GS to iPhone 4 they also doubled the L2 cache size and RAM bandwidth so CPU performance improvement should be greater than just the 33% clock speed increase.

This time around I think they dont have as much scope to increase single threaded performance. Significant clock speed increases will be limited by power. So what do they do then? Staying at dual core with moderate architecture and/or clock speed improvements wont go too far. Quad core could well be possible. Or perhaps even a split SoC strategy with dual core for the phone and quad for the tablet. (Would be more optimal on the GPU front as well as arguably the iphone 5s was somewhat overpowered for its resolution)
Their supposed 6-wide issue and large amount of execution resources might make something like hyperthreading an option so they can support 4 threads without going full quad core.
 
Silly me, I should've known better than to comment about android's diversity and freedom of choice in a thread about idevices...
Diversity just for the sake of it is pointless. Android market is quite overcrowded with largely similar and generally unimpressive offerings. Do you really need 20+ average-ish handsets to choose from...?

None of that is even remotely true for any flagship or GE device, but who am I to take you from your perfect path?
It is quite true for android devices in general, are you suggesting one limits the holy Freedom of Choice to only a mere handful of flagship phones? ;)

Looks like all smartphones have already been chosen for you, for the rest of your life.
Ever heard the expression, "if it ain't broke..."?
 
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