New Xbox Live prices: $59.99 and $69.99

i rather buy my "next" gen pc and pay just once for the game and play for free the 2,3,x years around worldwide free servers without fees, oh and at the end of the year i saved 50 bucks to buy myself or pay something else i really need.

P2P day,week,montly,year fees? I refuse, thankyou.
 
$5 a month isn't bad at all. Especially with MS saying you won't have to pay extra for MMO's (this is the word for now, but we've all seen how quickly things can change)

I also really like the $8/month card, between that and the free 3-month trials included with games(like last gen hopefully), you should be able to keep a Live Gold account going year round for next to nothing.
 
That's pretty bad, honestly.

You could sort of justify the current $50 fee because of all the services, but now that they'll be giving most of that to everyone free you'll basically be paying more for less.
 
1 Month Gold Card
- 1 month XBL subscription
Price: US$7.99

The 1 month card, that you could buy from your retail store is an excellent idea.
Same thing with all the other prepaid cards.
 
I pay $45 a month to play a single MMO on the PC, so you can just suck it up if you think that $60 a year is too much.

(If you're wondering: 3 DAoC accounts @ $15 a month.)
 
How cheap can you get? It is like buying A GAME every year, 60 dollars for 12 months.. come on!

I don´t mind, I get a great service, with minimum of cheaters etc, great functions, same gamertag on every game.. you get what you pay for..
 
Problem is, I don't really know what I'll be paying for that I can't get for free on the PC.

XBL mostly feels like a moneyscam to me, ripping people off for cash simply because they CAN; the box is a closed system so they set the rules. It may make things a bit easier for the player, but I already have messenger for voice chatting in games, every game comes with a server browser function built in, and most of the other stuff that XBL offers either isn't anything I'm interested in (matchmaking) or is offered for free in PC titles (rankings), shit like that.
 
It'll be surprising if all the MMO's are really included for free in that. I for one don't think that can hold, but maybe MS will surprise on that front.
 
I doubt that MMORPG's will all be free. I can think of one off the top of my head that may have a $5 a month price all to itself.

Regardless, Xbox Live is a great service and has a lot of value packed in. I do hope those with HDD's get downloadable content for a reasonable price or for free.
 
xbdestroya said:
It'll be surprising if all the MMO's are really included for free in that. I for one don't think that can hold, but maybe MS will surprise on that front.
MMOs require only a silver Xbox Live account (Which is free).
 
i don't get the big deal... when you break it down into a monthly rate it's pretty cheap as far as things go... most of the playing i do is on live with my mates so i'll definately be getting it again
 
WHen you actually factor in the hours oif gameplay you get out of it, I'm sure that the $5 is a great deal.

If a typical game gives me about 20-30 hours of gameply for $60, that's $2 or $3 an hour. If online can extend that to even an additional 10 hours of gameplay in a month, for just $5, that's only 50cents / hour, not too shabby!

Heck, if you can get even 5 hours of extra gameplay out of a game with online, for the extra $5 to $8 /month, its a much better deal that the $60 you pay originally to purchase the game.
 
I believe it is a very good deal. Most console gamers are not as technical as we are so a lot of the PC gaming is out of the question for them. Also, the console market is currently larger than the PC market and has been that way for quite some time now. With the Xbox 360 a lot of casual gamers will be able to get into it in a big way. With about 90% of games out there, just my guess, not needing any additional fees to be played online it is a very good deal. Casual gamers can come home from work or school, or sit in their dorms if they are in college and just pick up and play. Of course broadband is required, but that is reaching more and more homes each month. Xbox Live gives gamers a great package with plenty of features for a small cost.
 
Problem is you don't know what you get for that price. If reality turns out to be a lagg festival including 14 year old boys talking/acting the way they do..yeah then it's expensive. I personally have no experience with the online console world so I don't know.

I also wonder if you also have to pay extra for downloading game content. (if you get the 360 with HD that is..)
 
Vysez said:
MMOs require only a silver Xbox Live account (Which is free).

Vysez what do you mean 'free?'

I'm saying that the MMO's will have their own fees on top of Live's; we're all in agreement here am I right?

What I was originally replying to was this:

$5 a month isn't bad at all. Especially with MS saying you won't have to pay extra for MMO's (this is the word for now, but we've all seen how quickly things can change)

Sooo... MMO = $xx/month + Live (which can be free)

But ~$60/70 for Live does NOT negate the additional MMO charge. Or at least, that's how it's traditionally played out, and how I believe it will continue to.
 
It seems to expensive to me, but that's just a personal feeling. I'm not big on online gaming, so that might explain it. I'm 100x more interested in DLC and demos than I am in online gaming.
 
12 Month Premium Gold Pack
- 12 month XBL subscription
- A communicator headset
- Xbox Live arcade game: "Billiards"
- $20 discount on a games purchase
- 200 points in the XBL marketplace
Price: US$69.99

Basically $50. Why? You will have to buy a game to really use the system, so that $20 discount comes in handy IMMEDIATELY :D

200 marketplace points, a free mini game, and a headset (I knew those things had to be cheap!!!) and a year of Gold... niiiice.

This is the news I was waiting to hear... I am an online gaming junky, and this is music to my ears.

Guden Oden said:
Problem is, I don't really know what I'll be paying for that I can't get for free on the PC.

XBL mostly feels like a moneyscam to me, ripping people off for cash simply because they CAN; the box is a closed system so they set the rules.

You get a unified interface and feature set across the board in every Xbox Live game.

Having played PC games online since Quake up through today I can say this: The PC is a HEADACHE online. Yeah, some games have good interfaces, must most don't. e.g. BF2 shipped with a REALLY POOR server browser... and it is an ONLINE GAME. :oops: Further it did not even have a favorites list or other really basic features! And most online games do not have audio chat in game.

I don't like the "you have to pay to be online" approach in that yes, I get it free with the PC and prefer that. But on the other hand Live DOES improve the quality of the experience in many cases & for the targeted audiance (people typically less savy than PC users) having a single, unified, functional interface with robust features in EVERY game is a good move IMO.

Us PC guys may not like it... but I see the benefit to the market it provides. And at $5 a month, well, it is a good deal.

The PC is superior in many ways and can offer more features, but across the board Xbox Live games have more features and a better interface in general. There is a reason 3rd party server finders like ASE and voice chat like TeamSpeak and Ventrillo are popular--because PC developers frequently ignore and/or under develop their online tools. At its best the PC rules, but overall I have to give the nod to Xbox Live from the short experience I have with it. I have only used it a handful of times at friends' houses, but what I have seen (and read in reviews) is very good. And Xbox Live 360 looks even better.
 
xbdestroya said:
I'm saying that the MMO's will have their own fees on top of Live's; we're all in agreement here am I right?

But ~$60/70 for Live does NOT negate the additional MMO charge. Or at least, that's how it's traditionally played out, and how I believe it will continue to.

The confusion is the words you are using. There are 2 Live versions (GOLD and SILVERr) now :D We know that SILVERr accounts *can* play MMOs, although additional fees may apply (will apply is more like it!). So no GOLD account is required to play MMOs.

http://features.teamxbox.com/xbox/1147/Xbox-360-Software-and-Services-Features/p1

So to review: if you ONLY play MMOs, you can skip GOLD and get SILVER. If you play MMOs and other online games you have to get GOLD.
 
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