New 360 Dash is not natively 1080p?*

[AlNom]

Changed the thread title. 720p is defined as a High Definition format, and it certainly would not make sense for them to downgrade.

 

[bkilian]

1 SPE reserved for OS along with about 50 mb of ram (could be a smaller memory footprint by now, these things go down). Thats more than enough resources to make xmb appear as a layer and what not.

From what I remember of conversations here a while ago, there may be some clock cycles reserved in the SPU too. On the 360 it's ~6% of cores 2 and 3, in which we do audio mixing and encoding, as well as background downloads, the OS overlays, voice and text chat, etc.

 

[RobertR1]

bikilian,

1080p is old hat. I want it in 4k for the fall update. Let's make it happen!

 

[Lucid_Dreamer]

oh the horrors...

whatever will we do with a dash rendering at only 720p packed full of features.

I just have one question. If you had a choice between a dash rendering at 720p packed full of features and a dash rendering at 1080p packed full of features, which would you choose?

 

[Tap In]

I just have one question. If you had a choice between a dash rendering at 720p packed full of features and a dash rendering at 1080p packed full of features, which would you choose?

bogus question.

since I have 2 720p tvs and don't expect to move to 1080p until Xbox 720, then I'd prefer the 720p and whatever trade offs they made to do that. I assume that they are smart enough people to have made those trade offs worth my while whether I know the details or not.

720 is ample this generation as evidenced by the OVERWHELMING number of titles on both HD system that can barely even render at that res.

Upscaling is more than acceptable for those with 1080p for a dash, as I witnessed at Circuit city last week,

 

[Lucid_Dreamer]

bogus question.

since I have 2 720p tvs and don't expect to move to 1080p until Xbox 720, then I'd prefer the 720p and whatever trade offs they made to do that. I assume that they are smart enough people to have made those trade offs worth my while whether I know the details or not.

720 is ample this generation as evidenced by the OVERWHELMING number of titles on both HD system that can barely even render at that res.

Upscaling is more than acceptable for those with 1080p for a dash, as I witnessed at Circuit city last week,

That let me know ALL I needed to know from you on these matters. Thank you for answering my question.

 

[Arwin]

720 is ample this generation as evidenced by the OVERWHELMING number of titles on both HD system that can barely even render at that res.

Totally besides the point this. When I'm using a console for media purposes like watching photos or browsing or HD video (BluRay native, but even handy cams that support 1080p are getting cheaper every day) then dashboard support for my native screen resolution does matter a fair bit. Especially on my 22" screen it makes a big difference. Next time I have my PS3 hooked up on it I'll take some pictures.

It's not so strange either, I mean 1080p is twice the pixels of 720p!

However, the dash isn't out yet, so we'll see what the final version does. But I have to say, I thought that one of the reasons they redesigned the dash was precisely because it would allow a better scaleable dash, so when that doesn't happen, I'll be both surprised and disappointed. But we'll see.

 

[ErnstH]

However, the dash isn't out yet, so we'll see what the final version does. But I have to say, I thought that one of the reasons they redesigned the dash was precisely because it would allow a better scaleable dash, so when that doesn't happen, I'll be both surprised and disappointed. But we'll see.

AFAIK, the most important design goal for the new interface is accessibility of content. The current dashboard implementation was never expected to host so much video/games/etc. As such, I rather have a dashboard that takes up as little system memory as possible whilst still reaching that goal. If that means a 720p dash instead of a 1080p dash, so be it. After all, its most important function is still as a gaming console. I'd rather not have some bloated OS with functions only a very tiny minority of the audience will enjoy.

 

[Lucid_Dreamer]

I'd rather not have some bloated OS with functions only a very tiny minority of the audience will enjoy.

Did you know the more individual functions you can perform, the wider the "net" is for appeal...so to speak? I can't see a problem with a highly functional OS with a native 1080p resolution interface that mets your needs as you continue to GROW. Especially, if it's other main functions are impressive. *sigh* I don't know, maybe I'm just not thinking short-term enough. Short-term isn't really my strong suit.

 

[assen]

I was "meh, whatever" at first, but now I tend to agree with Arwin.

It doesn't matter if you view your friends list in 720p or 1080p.
It DOES matter if you view your photos in 720p or 1080p.

 

[pipo]

I'm glad that won't matter to me. All I care about is the new party system.

Native support for 8 friends. Now we're talking.

Seriously, do you really watch photos on the system?

 

[Tap In]

That let me know ALL I needed to know from you on these matters. Thank you for answering my question.

watching you guys keep trying to make this a valid (more than a console wars) point is humorous.

 

[Shifty Geezer]

Stupid fanboy drivvel thread. Closed, pending resolution confirmation upon the dashboard's release.