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You totally missed my point. I know that you can't do what's in Avatar without CGI. My point is that the way Avatar is a mostly CGI experience makes it soulless and flat for me (when added to the crappy story) and that the way Mad Max Fury Road sprinkles CGI on real life effects makes it feel more authentic and true.
Don't get me wrong. CGI isn't wrong in itself, it is the best way to create impossible things, but it shouldn't be the only tool in the toolbox.
Would the scene in Inception when they crawl on the ceilings and walls in the hotel dream sequence been better if it was entirely CGI instead of a ingenious rotating contraption? Don't think it would be cheaper ...
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Ah. Right. Well, that'd be cool.
You mean the deep-dive submarine stuff he had built? I would expect that to be his hobby pet project - gods know he can afford it. The bottom of the Marianer trench would make for a pretty poor feature film - dark and grey and muddy...
The bottom of the Marianer trench would make for a pretty poor feature film - dark and grey and muddy...
That depends what you find down there ... just ask Guillermo del Toro
Although I hope the rumours are true regarding a new Hellboy movie.
I kinda liked Avatar. Are you all going to judge me now?
Rurouni
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I just watched Ant Man, and I was entertained by it more than Avengers 2. It's definitely more comedic than previous Marvel movies, also I think the comedy is more literal vs GotG. Anyway, I felt that Avengers 2 is a movie that was made just for bridging the story to civil war, thus it felt hollow. Ant Man at least can stand on its own. There is 2 small scene at the end (mid credit and after the credit ends). They only indicate it by text, but they said that Ant Man will return. I don't think that it will return as a stand alone movie, but probably starring in the next Cap. America or Avengers.
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I also kind of like Avatar. I don't have any problem with the effects in the film. The action itself is full of great Cameronisms.
What doesn't work for me is the whole dances with wolves element and the Navi design. Its the noses. Reminds me of the wizard of Oz lion.
You're probably right. That of course requires that the rulers of said society would make advanced medical procedures available to everyone. It might not be in their best interest to be that altruistic, as it wouldn't benefit them, just like it doesn't benefit the rulers of many of our current nations to do the same either.
Also, as some pointed out, there's no evidence travel in Avatar is FTL. You might not even want to reach particularly high speeds, as relativistic effects would quickly start screwing with your life. You go away for a few years your time, come back, many decades might have passed back home. Your immediate family and friends could all be dead and buried already and so on.
Back in the '70s and '80s, when you went abroad on charter vacation you had no idea what went on back home, other than maybe a small ring binder with brief news telegrams which you could read in the hotel lobby. No internet and no satellite TV made you cut off in a way that for most just isn't possible anymore. You went away, almost completely disconnected, and life went on without you while you laid on a beach or next to the hotel pool, reading a dog-eared paperback novel...
This would be the same, only magnified like millions of times.
It's an interesting thought experiment to do a relativistic trip, but it would probably be fairly traumatic in reality. Everyone who ever knew you gone, your whole society could have changed while you were away.He can't have a sex scene without the characters holding hands and interlacing their fingers. The same basic shot is in Terminator, Titanic and Avatar. He must really have a thing for that image, heh... AFAIR, none of his other movies have characters bonking, but if they did I bet he'd repeat it there as well.
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That would only happen if you were travelling very close to c right? Now 4 lightyears in 6 years is loony toons fast, but I'm not sure it's fast enough to cause massive problems like that. Of course I forgot how to do the math years agoAlso, as some pointed out, there's no evidence travel in Avatar is FTL. You might not even want to reach particularly high speeds, as relativistic effects would quickly start screwing with your life. You go away for a few years your time, come back, many decades might have passed back home. Your immediate family and friends could all be dead and buried already and so on.
Back in the '70s and '80s, when you went abroad on charter vacation you had no idea what went on back home, other than maybe a small ring binder with brief news telegrams which you could read in the hotel lobby. No internet and no satellite TV made you cut off in a way that for most just isn't possible anymore. You went away, almost completely disconnected, and life went on without you while you laid on a beach or next to the hotel pool, reading a dog-eared paperback novel...
This would be the same, only magnified like millions of times.
I too have forgotten all that stuff (decades ago now in my case lol), but the effect is cumulative the faster you go and the longer you go. We have to compensate for GPS satellites orbiting us and those don't travel very fast in the big scheme of things. Also, it was a what, five and a half, six-year trip in Avatar - ONE WAY.That would only happen if you were travelling very close to c right? Now 4 lightyears in 6 years is loony toons fast, but I'm not sure it's fast enough to cause massive problems like that. Of course I forgot how to do the math years ago
You gotta go home too, that's twice the time dilation.And since it seems conventional engines were used, that means you accelerate halfway, then turn around and decelerate the rest of the way; peak speed would thus be much faster than mean speed, with correspondingly higher time dilation...
Yes this occurred to me after I posted. Considering that, they would have come darn close to c at some point along the way.
Could be. Or their engines are amazingly efficient thanks to Unobtanium, meaning they can accelerate to say, .6C in a short amount of time, then turn off the engines completely and just plain coast the rest of the way until near the end of the journey... *shrug*
Hmm actually I just did the math and it seems accelerating at 1g for a year would take you to a very high fraction of c. So nevermind that
Now this is interesting. 1 year to reach slightly less than c, 4 years traveling at slightly less than c, then 1 year to decelerate = 6 years and would take you ~4 lightyears distance. Could it be that the writers actually bothered to do this math?
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I wouldn't be surprised, Avatar spent quite a bit of thought on its science to ground the movie - it's not all floating mountains...
Biggest issue tho, at four (eight, considering return leg of trip) years at high fraction of C - could you actually even survive such a trip? It'd be a hell of a dice-roll, because colliding with anything, even the smallest speck of rock or ice at such a velocity would be like a large bomb hitting your craft and going off. And while space is mostly empty, you're travelling for years at that speed. Lots of possibility for something, anything to enter into your path... Ugh.However traveling at something like 0.5c is very dangerous as even a small space dust could destroy the spaceship.
At higher speed blueshift will become a serious problem as most light starting to look like gamma rays.
[EDIT] However you don't really need to be in hibernation or something if you travel near speed of light... time dilation will make it looks like a very short time.
At higher speed blueshift will become a serious problem as most light starting to look like gamma rays.
[EDIT] However you don't really need to be in hibernation or something if you travel near speed of light... time dilation will make it looks like a very short time.
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"Mostly empty" is a bit of an understatement
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