Yes I agree as I just bought a 2TB nvme for my steam deck that was $150. however my steam deck and the ps5 has something in common. I have to take apart parts of the device and use a screw driver. The xbox drives just plug in the back and are hot swappable. I would have loved that option on the steam deck. At the end of the day some increase in price is warranted for ease of use. How much is up to the individual. I still think it would have been better at $120 for the 1TB and maybe $200 for a 2TB
Hopefully MS opens this up to more companies. WD drive prices are more expensive than a lot of other companies drives
as others have said it would be really large and be prone to breaking if people move their systems around a lot.
I am hoping for a dock that you can plug into the slot and have multiple cards plugged in at once.
they are all larger and I don't think they will save much money
edit - also the series doesn't use an m.2 its proprietary
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yes, its been known for years that Xbox series external storage card use standard CF express. you even can use it on other devices that have CF Express slot.
china also has been selling M2 to CF Express adapter for a long time, and it works with xbox series
china also has been selling M2 to CF Express adapter for a long time, and it works with xbox series
If the blu ray drive is removed, there is a chance to fit it in there. But, it’s a heavy redesign of the consoles.
Maybe slim models, but I have a feeling they are just sticking with 2230 and capping the size of the drive to 2TB
Yes but its still not just an m.2. So sticking an m.2 in the slot doesn't really solve anything. There are converters for CF you can use https://www.amazon.com/SleepPradise...ries+storage+expansion,electronics,95&sr=1-15
You can even go without the plastic housing and put in a full CF drive in there or 3d print your own case if you want.
Doesn't need to be designed for the larger form factor to stick far out the back.
It could easily be a T shape with the connector in the middle and it laying flatish to the console.
Cooling could be interesting, but considering it would use the slowest chips and lot more of them, I would think that should be fine. Or very slim heatsink.
It could easily be a T shape with the connector in the middle and it laying flatish to the console.
Cooling could be interesting, but considering it would use the slowest chips and lot more of them, I would think that should be fine. Or very slim heatsink.
The slot could be vertical, a recess in the side of the machine you slide the expansion down in to. Halfway between the current plug-in perpendicular and the M.2's slot in flat, plug in flat.
Yeah an L shape would work, assuming Microsoft stopped doing ssd model whitelist ing.
Or that whitelist has been hacked? Like by spoofing or something
Or that whitelist has been hacked? Like by spoofing or something
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Cooling is still an issue. I have an older (1.5 GB/s max) NVME drive in an external enclosure with a heatsink and it can still throttle due to heat unless I force air over the heatsink. You definitely aren't advised to touch the heatsink when it's in heavy use (especially writing of any amount of data) it gets REALLY hot.
Considering that, depending on user, the SSD for Xbox Series owners can potentially get a fair amount of write traffic (quick resume will dump gigabytes worth of data to the drive when switching). I expect most gamers won't switch much, but I do know some people that sometimes switch through multiple games in a relatively short amount of time.
For example, I have one friend who will rage quit a multiplayer game if he isn't doing well in a match and immediately switch to another multiplayer game. I've seen him do this with up to 5 games in rapid succession.
He will also sometimes do that in single player games as well. I know that's a statistical anomaly and he's the type of player that I absolutely "hate" in multiplayer matches, but it's likely at least one use case scenario that MS is attempting to account for with their very robust cooling system for their SSD (expansion storage card with metal heatsink casing and forced air cooling when inserted into the console).
Thinking about it in reference to my NVME in an external "thumb" drive enclosure, that forced air cooling is likely also to ensure the drive never gets hot enough to potentially burn the user's fingers when it's extracted from the console.
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SB
Considering that, depending on user, the SSD for Xbox Series owners can potentially get a fair amount of write traffic (quick resume will dump gigabytes worth of data to the drive when switching). I expect most gamers won't switch much, but I do know some people that sometimes switch through multiple games in a relatively short amount of time.
For example, I have one friend who will rage quit a multiplayer game if he isn't doing well in a match and immediately switch to another multiplayer game. I've seen him do this with up to 5 games in rapid succession.
He will also sometimes do that in single player games as well. I know that's a statistical anomaly and he's the type of player that I absolutely "hate" in multiplayer matches, but it's likely at least one use case scenario that MS is attempting to account for with their very robust cooling system for their SSD (expansion storage card with metal heatsink casing and forced air cooling when inserted into the console).Thinking about it in reference to my NVME in an external "thumb" drive enclosure, that forced air cooling is likely also to ensure the drive never gets hot enough to potentially burn the user's fingers when it's extracted from the console.
Regards,
SB
Well on the x it wouldn't really work
It would either block the HDMI / Optical or left to right would block a usb and ethernet and cooling vents. However on the cooling vent side it could help keep the thing cooler
The S has a wierd cooling vent above it so I'm not sure if it would work going vertical.
I don't think this is such a big issue IMO as the price of the cards should continue to go down and at some point the games this generation will hit a limit to how big they will be. Having a 1TB or 2TB card in addition to the 800gigs avalible in the console for the x might be enough.
Like I said I'd rather see a plug leading to a card hub where I could connect 2-4 cards. That way I could buy a 512 now , maybe a 1TB in the future and then perhaps a 2TB later on.
I was thinking more like this:
Have a flap that opens up revealing a recess into which a longer cart can slotted. Can have heat-sink on the inward side and direct air over it inside the case. PS5 is halfway but uses the raw nVME slot and need to screw down. Taking the CF form factor and connector type, you should be able to create a cart that plugs into a slot with the whole open-up-and-screw-down overhead.
Have a flap that opens up revealing a recess into which a longer cart can slotted. Can have heat-sink on the inward side and direct air over it inside the case. PS5 is halfway but uses the raw nVME slot and need to screw down. Taking the CF form factor and connector type, you should be able to create a cart that plugs into a slot with the whole open-up-and-screw-down overhead.
I'm still thinking for them to reposition it to where the typically completely unused optical drive is on the front. May be big enough to have multiple 2280 slots plug in there. Either slot in from the front or slot down from the side.
The real question is if this would lower the price in anyway. I don't think the reason the price is so high is because its small and single nand. After all the 2TB drive I just got is single nand and 2230 cost me $150 and $80 for a 1TB. I think we need a third party to just make an adapter that can take full sticks .
But what's the sustained performance metrics of those 2TB cards? Not the peak numbers, but the sustained numbers.
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