Microsoft acquired Activision Blizzard King for $69 Billion on 2023-10-13

[Shifty Geezer]

The tribunal live streamed the event. People watched and discussed what was said and done . Some the detriment of the CMA and Tribunal. Now they are surprised that people would take interest and have opinions on what is going on ?

It has nothing to do with the discussion and everything to do with the unlawful sharing of content from the hearing. SmooTh is in part responsible for just posting the headline and no explanation, but you could have taken a moment to actually follow the link to see what exactly the complaint is instead of making one up.

 

[eastmen]

It has nothing to do with the discussion and everything to do with the unlawful sharing of content from the hearing. SmooTh is in part responsible for just posting the headline and no explanation, but you could have taken a moment to actually follow the link to see what exactly the complaint is instead of making one up.

They live streamed the court case. At that point anyone can record or take photos of it. once you release somethign to the public you can no longer control it.

It's also back up with a silly water mark scrolling saying its illegal to record that footage.

Convene

 

[Shifty Geezer]

They live streamed the court case. At that point anyone can record or take photos of it. once you release somethign to the public you can no longer control it.

Whether you agree with the rules or not, no-one is exempt from them. Protocol is that no-one takes photos at the hearing, likely a blanket policy for all legal hearings that streaming is controlled as most UK hearings aren't public. The law goes back a long time and required artists to sit in court hearings and create drawings of high profile cases.

It's also back up with a silly water mark scrolling saying its illegal to record that footage.

Necessary to prevent people tampering with it. Record it, edit it, share an edit, rewrite history. The intention is to have one official, accurate record of proceedings and to stop anyone butchering that. eg. Take a photo, digital manipulate to change the content on a document, share the image.

And yes, it won't stop people, but that doesn't then mean people in the court should ignore the rule or the rule should be repealed. You won't stop people speeding - does that mean we should remove all speed limit regulations? You won't stop people burglaring by just saying they aren't allowed - should we thus ditch those laws?

 

[eastmen]

Whether you agree with the rules or not, no-one is exempt from them. Protocol is that no-one takes photos at the hearing, likely a blanket policy for all legal hearings that streaming is controlled as most UK hearings aren't public. The law goes back a long time and required artists to sit in court hearings and create drawings of high profile cases.

Necessary to prevent people tampering with it. Record it, edit it, share an edit, rewrite history. The intention is to have one official, accurate record of proceedings and to stop anyone butchering that. eg. Take a photo, digital manipulate to change the content on a document, share the image.

And yes, it won't stop people, but that doesn't then mean people in the court should ignore the rule or the rule should be repealed. You won't stop people speeding - does that mean we should remove all speed limit regulations? You won't stop people burglaring by just saying they aren't allowed - should we thus ditch those laws?

Oh I can understand why the UK would want to try and control this. The problem is once its publicly live streamed over the internet to the whole world the UK no longer has control. So they can either not stream it or deal with it. There isn't really much of a middle ground .

 

[Shifty Geezer]

The UK's not trying to control it! Your argument is all over the place. It's a judicial system that existed long before this merger and will exist long after and has jack shit to do with video games or even the decision making of the CMA. The rules of this legal system were violated. That's the link. Has nothing to do with people discussing the proceeding or not, other than violating the UK's sovereign right to operate it's legal process how its seems fit. It bares nothing to do with whether the CMA is doing a good job or not. No-one's trying to silence to proceedings or control the narrative.

 

[eastmen]

The UK's not trying to control it! Your argument is all over the place. It's a judicial system that existed long before this merger and will exist long after and has jack shit to do with video games or even the decision making of the CMA. The rules of this legal system were violated. That's the link. Has nothing to do with people discussing the proceeding or not, other than violating the UK's sovereign right to operate it's legal process how its seems fit. It bares nothing to do with whether the CMA is doing a good job or not. No-one's trying to silence to proceedings or control the narrative.

I mean this is what they wrote

The Tribunal has had drawn to its attention a number of photographs of the livestreamed casemanagement conference in Microsoft v. CMA on 30 May which have been taken, manipulatedand broadcast in what can only be the clearest violation of the rules. These violations – whichappear to be deliberate – are taken extremely seriously by the Tribunal, not only because theyshow a disregard for the rule of law and the court’s authority, but also because the concernsof those opposed to livestreaming (hitherto shown to have been unfounded) are givensubstance.

they are saying that images from the live stream were taken , manipulated and broadcast. It's extremely broad because recording could also be considered manipulation or even editing out snips of it.

What I am saying is that the UK has broadcast this out over the internet which is global. The UK is not the Global Government and once they broad cast this out they no longer have control over what is done with the footage. They may want to have control, but the only control is if they stream or not.

You think they aren't trying to control narrative but I disagree. Once you say what can and can't be done with a publicly available video stream , it is controlling the narrative by its very definition.

 

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Color grading is a form of image manipulation.

 

[eastmen]

Color grading is a form of image manipulation.

Yup. That is why it so silly and even more silly when the UK is trying to stop the world from using video they provided as if the rest of the world would care about the UK laws.

 

[Shortbread]

Please don't post and dump. Spend a moment explaining the content.

Someone has violated court rules by sharing media of the court proceedings outside of the official livestream.

It's unclear who is responsible. Possibly journalists.

Not just this, but a certain segment of gamers are trying to use these live proceeding as a means of seeking out certain individuals (mostly CMA officials) and information as a means of attacking them on social media, or worst. The barrister/lawyer representing the CMA was being harassed and even threaten after the first live stream. Prompting the parties involved to send out certain statements on being calm, respectful, and so-on. This acquisition has brought out the worst in some.

 

[eastmen]

Not just this, but a certain segment of gamers are trying to use these live proceeding as a means of seeking out certain individuals (mostly CMA officials) and information as a means of attacking these individuals on social media, or worst. The barrister/lawyer representing the CMA was being harassed and even threaten after the first live stream. Prompting the parties involved to send out certain statements on being calm, respectful, and so-on. This acquisition has brought out the worst in some.

Sadly this is the nature of the internet in general. People get doxed all the time. It's going to be worse for public officials.

 

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Sadly this is the nature of the internet in general. People get doxed all the time. It's going to be worse for public officials.

That doesn't make it right, though. It's the same with the livestream. If there are rules against it, it shouldn't be happening. Though I do appreciate the flow of information.

 

[eastmen]

That doesn't make it right, though. It's the same with the livestream. If there are rules against it, it shouldn't be happening. Though I do appreciate the flow of information.

That is the problem , lots of things shouldn't happen but they do. People are doxed all the time. There isn't much to do about it and when you are a public official its even easier to get information on the person. It comes with the job.

 

[see colon]

People are doxed all the time. There isn't much to do about it and when you are a public official its even easier to get information on the person. It comes with the job.

Much to do about it? Sure there is, enforce the laws and rules that are designed to prevent such behavior.

 

[eastmen]

Much to do about it? Sure there is, enforce the laws and rules that are designed to prevent such behavior.

Which are ? And how to do you enforce the law on someone in another country ?

 

[GhostofWar]

With the rumors about FTC rushing an injunction could it possibly be the cma who sent something during this that triggered that response or whatever you want to call it from the CAT on the previous page? Whatever the hell is going on this is going to make a fascinating movie down the line.

 

[Shortbread]

Which are ? And how to do you enforce the law on someone in another country ?

There are international laws involving all manners of law enforcement agencies on preventing, stopping, and prosecuting crimes, especially terroristic threats to others.

 

[Shortbread]

Nothing particularly new, but news nonetheless.

FTC will try to block Microsoft's acquisition of Activision Blizzard

The FTC had already sued to block the $68.7 billion acquisition, choosing to bring the case before its internal administrative law judge.

www.cnbc.com

KEY POINTS

• The Federal Trade Commission is set to file for an injunction seeking to block Microsoft’s proposed acquisition of Activision Blizzard, a person familiar with the matter told CNBC.
• The FTC had already sued to block the $68.7 billion acquisition, choosing to bring the case before its internal administrative law judge.
• By filing for an injunction, the FTC is seeking to stop the acquisition from going through before the deal’s July 18 deadline.

The FTC had already sued to block the $68.7 billion acquisition, choosing to bring the case before its internal administrative law judge. Through that trial-like process, the ALJ would make an initial decision that could be appealed to the full commission for a vote. After that, Microsoft could appeal to a federal court should the decision not go its way. The case is set to go before the ALJ in August.

An appeal of the UK’s Competition and Markets Authority’s decision to block the merger is also scheduled to take place this summer shortly after the acquisition deadline.

“We welcome the opportunity to present our case in federal court,” Microsoft President Brad Smith said. “We believe accelerating the legal process in the U.S will ultimately bring more choice and competition to the market.”

 

[Silent_Buddha]

And yes, it won't stop people, but that doesn't then mean people in the court should ignore the rule or the rule should be repealed. You won't stop people speeding - does that mean we should remove all speed limit regulations? You won't stop people burglaring by just saying they aren't allowed - should we thus ditch those laws?

Well, maybe not speeding but here in some of the coastal cities in the US they decided that they can't stop shoplifting so they should stop making it illegal.

Regards,
SB

 

[Silent_Buddha]

...as if the rest of the world would care about the UK laws.

And that's part of the problem. If you don't care about it, don't comment on it. If you care about any judgements that are passed by a UK court or departmental body, then you need to care about their laws.

The same goes for the US and its laws or the EU and its laws, or any country and its laws and any judgements that they pass.

I get that more attention is often paid to the US and its laws because its the largest free market (China battles for the top market size but isn't exactly a free market) that most large companies cannot ignore, so what happens there often has a disproportionate effect on the global economy and multinational corporations and even small corporations or businesses that so any business in the US.

That does not excuse just ignoring a smaller but significant market like the UK and thus its laws and how it affects corporations and businesses that operate in that country.

Regards,
SB

 

[Shortbread]

And that's part of the problem. If you don't care about it, don't comment on it. If you care about any judgements that are passed by a UK court or departmental body, then you need to care about their laws.

The same goes for the US and its laws or the EU and its laws, or any country and its laws and any judgements that they pass.

I get that more attention is often paid to the US and its laws because its the largest free market (China battles for the top market size but isn't exactly a free market) that most large companies cannot ignore, so what happens there often has a disproportionate effect on the global economy and multinational corporations and even small corporations or businesses that so any business in the US.

That does not excuse just ignoring a smaller but significant market like the UK and thus its laws and how it affects corporations and businesses that operate in that country.

Regards,
SB

Excellent post!