Leaked PS3 info!

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Well, I don't believe the rumors - just doesn't make too much sense since drive manufacturers will be releasing drives with tri-wavelength heads shortly, and Panasonic already has such drives (though not in production) for the laptop form factor.

Anyway so I'm leaning strongly towards no, but I'm hoping the next week will clarify it anyway what with the possible PS3 news. In any event though, I'm appreciative of your efforts L-B! :)
 
Jon Brittan said:
Originally Posted by Jon Brittan
There are only two things that would make me even begin to give this information any credit whatsoever:

1. It's posted by london-boy and he has traditionally had (fair and well tempered) leanings towards the Sony camp coupled with a well balanced and well measured approach to his postings in the forum. I don't think though that he would post anything particularly negative about a Sony console unless he was at least reasonably confident of the source (to be honest I think the same would apply to non-Sony material also).:

london-boy said:

*Jon Carefully removes brown nose and gives his face a quick wash*
 
MasaC said:
I'll guess the following tech from Sony was abandoned:

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/200405/04-026E/

I'll guess that extra part in the optical system compared to conventional BD-rom tech is just too much for Sony...

</saracasm>

May 17, 2004
"Sony will target commercializing the newly developed 3-wavelength optical head within 2 years"

Wouldnt be the first time targets were not met...

(But I would be surprised in this case)
 
Shifty Geezer said:
Isn't it 'better practice' to suggest a Spring launch, but not give a definite, and keep postponing 'just a little bit longer' so would be buyers saving onto their money KEEP saving onto their money expecting PS3 to be released 'any day now'? Launching early with a crippled system will surely just hurt image and annoy customers expecting the promised BC, whereas stringing them along is just annoying but can be excused more easily. 'We're taking longer to make a better machine'.

Maybe and it would be very much what they would be hoping for were that to be the case, if l-b is correct though and this does happen to be the official Sony plan it would strongly suggest that they feel confidence and their ability to keep people waiting so long after X360's release have been eroded to such an extent that any further announcement of delays would push consumers away. This can be mitigated by multiple shorter delay announcements as opposed to one announcement of several months, but every time it happens a little more confidence and patience will disappear. It really depends on just how close to the edge Sony feel they already are with regards to getting people to postpone next-gen purchases for their launch.
In all likelihood you're entirely correct, I'm simply speaking hypothetically if we take the original information in this thread to be correct.

kyetech said:
*Jon Carefully removes brown nose and gives his face a quick wash*

Riiiiight. Okay, now do a search on my post history and find a single other post of mine praising l-b or brown-nosing.
The simple fact of the matter is that the original post asked for some faith in some otherwise almost entirely unbelievable information, I would simply prefer to put stock in this sort of information if it comes from someone I percieve as reputable than someone who trolls regularly.
I even noted that I don't think l-b is an entirely unbiased source of information, just that he manages to keep that bias in check unlike so many others and as regards the feasability of him being a reliable source just check his reputation (Little green boxes under his name, unlike the large number of people around here with reputation turned off or red boxes).
So, should we stop appreciating certain posters for their consistently good posting purely for the fact that we may be considered to be "brown-nosing"? You can feel free, I'll stick with the tried and tested method of putting more stock into the words of people who have proved their worth in the past.

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And while I'm replying to several people at once...

sytaylor said:

Sorry, didn't you mean "post+1" ;)
 
PC-Engine said:
If it's real, it's probably just so they can lower the price to compete. Not only do you save in costs of a cheaper less capable less complex BR drive, but you also don't need the EE+GS@90nm chip in there which uses up PCB space generating heat and require a fan heatsink too. I think this could be real only because DL BD-ROM disc manufacturing has still yet to be decided. You cannot start manufacturing robust DL BD-ROM capable drives when you don't even know how the discs will be manufactured. This is significant because they need to start manufacturing pretty soon for PS3's launch. They might release a firmware update later on for the Japanese drives when they figure out how the DL BRDs will be made. Since the first year BR movies will be on SL discs it won't really affect PS3's movie playback capability much. I've also heard that they want to stick with SL BD for awhile since it's cheaper and easier to make than DL BD. Games will only use SL anyway.
they weren't going to use EE+GS@90nm chip anyway. cell is suppose to be powerful enough to run ps2 game with a simple emulation program.
 
MasaC said:
I'll guess the following tech from Sony was abandoned:

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/200405/04-026E/

I'll guess that extra part in the optical system compared to conventional BD-rom tech is just too much for Sony...

</saracasm>

FYI that's from before TDK inventing the anti scratch coating that makes Blu-Ray discs without cartriges possible. Going from reading from something in almost prestine operating conditions to something that will stand up to normal consumer wear and still function is a big step. The drive that was designed for was also not dual layer and the media probably doesn't have the focal length deisgn of the new Blu-Ray discs but instead the same focal length of DVDs and CDs. The player/recorder english review http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/blu-ray/ . That site also said it cost ~4 grand, how much do you honestly think the price has come down.
 
i thought BR drives could read dvd formated disks regardless the simplicity of the drive. I really, really doubt this will change the price of ps3 a lot. what...30 bucks?
 
Jesus Sony isnt that dumb.

Whoever believe this is out of his mind.

Its been officially confirmed many many times that PS3 will be backwards compatible.

And why should they release a PS3 that it will only read single layer BRs if Sony sees the PS3 as a device that would establish the format?
 
I really can't imagine this would be true. Certainly Sony would just delay their launch if the preferred drives were only a couple of months off. The bad press of a functionality limited PS3 would cost them more in sales than missing their Japanese launch by a couple of months.

I can't help but feel that either the correct drives are a lot farther off then just a couple of months, or this rumor isn't true, and I'm leaning towards the latter.
 
Nesh said:
And why should they release a PS3 that it will only read single layer BRs if Sony sees the PS3 as a device that would establish the format?

Now that much, I can understand because it is unlikely that movies will require dual layers.

Using the VC1 codec a 1080p movie would require around 63MB per minute, so a 3 hour movie would use about 22.6GB. Of course, movie studios will probably go with 720p movies instead of 1080p as the standard resolution due to costs, which would give them even more left over space on the disk.
 
robofunk said:
FYI that's from before TDK inventing the anti scratch coating that makes Blu-Ray discs without cartriges possible.

And that affects the optical system exactly how?
 
I went on to explain how they changed from a cartrige based drive, the only things remotely similar between the technologies are probably the name, the wavelength of the laser, and maybe the modulation and error correction.

Edit: Did you read any of what I wrote, that laser and optics wasn't designed for dual layer, and was probably based on a different focal length.
 
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*GAF Alert*

GAF has gotten ahold of this newly leaked info! They are watching us!

L-B, you sure this person from "EA" wasn't "ontimeposter" with a moustache and a monikle?
 
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Mmm, maybe that's why Namco will be launching Ridge Racer collectors edition on one BD-ROM at PLAYSTATION 3 launch? If it doesn't support DVD or CD it is the only route they can go. But we'll see at this upcoming speech that Ken is doing.
 
robofunk said:
I went on to explain how they changed from a cartrige based drive, the only things remotely similar between the technologies are probably the name, the wavelength of the laser, and maybe the modulation and error correction.

Edit: Did you read any of what I wrote, that laser and optics wasn't designed for dual layer, and was probably based on a different focal length.

As you may or may not be aware of, I was speaking of the triple wavelength technology. I don't believe they've abondoned it as it would be the most efficient way on PS3 to be able to read PS1, PS2 and PS3-disks as announced earlier just before E3. In that pressrelease they also announced 54 GB dual layer BD-rom support.

http://www.scee.presscentre.com/content/detail.asp?ReleaseID=3842&NewsAreaID=2
 
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