KillZone 2 News coming Very soon

[Inane_Dork]

I thought Digital Anvil was canned.

I had forgotten that, but it looks to be true.
MS can easily have another developer take a crack at it, though.

It's not really given what happened at E3.

What happened at E3 was just as amazing to me. Maybe Guerilla has impeccable karma or something, but it was like everyone wanted to think of Killzone as a system selling, AAA game. They certainly have not earned that yet, though they might make that caliber of game soon enough.

I don't think it's so much that the game is hyped - in quarters like these at least - but there is a strong anticipation to even just see what it looks like now.

The second part I agree with. The first I do not agree with. The Killzone PS3 video (and corresponding screens) is probably more tied to what next gen is than any game out there. Gears, Oblivion, MGS4, UT2k7, etc. are all compared to that video. Given the situation, that's hype. The game does not deserve that place of honor.

 

[Nicked]

The game does not deserve that place of honor.

Sure it does. It is quite simply represents the visuals, animation and overall polish we expect to see this generation. It may have been CG, but it epitomized next-gen.

 

[scooby_dooby]

Sure it does. It is quite simply represents the visuals, animation and overall polish we expect to see this generation. It may have been CG, but it epitomized next-gen.

Seems to me there's something wrong with every REAL game having to measure up to some farmed out CG movie. mainly because it's so damn easy to create a CG movie, anybody could do it,

I don't see what's so special about KZ that it deserves to be the standard by which all games are measured, it just a movie! #1, it's not even a real game, anyone can hire a CG company to make a pretty movie #2 KZ was a flop

GOW should be that standard, or MGS, or some other REAL game that deserves the recognition and respect, not a faked movie...and when Guerilla finally gets the balls together to release real footage of a real game, then we can see if they truly 'epitomize' next-gen, or whether they're just another B-level dev with a pretty target render....

 

[Nicked]

Seems to me there's something wrong with every REAL game having to measure up to some farmed out CG movie. mainly because it's so damn easy to create a CG movie, anybody could do it,

Anyone? I doubt it. Give it a shot.

I don't see what's so special about KZ that it deserves to be the standard by which all games are measured, it just a movie! #1, it's not even a real game, anyone can hire a CG company to make a pretty movie #2 KZ was a flop

1) Its gorgeous.
2) The action exhibited is quite simply, amazing. It looked fun.
3) At a time where all the Xbox360 showing lacked, it told consumers that they can expect more from next-gen. CG it is, but it done a lot more to get consumers excited about next-gen than Wallguy ever did.

GOW should be that standard, or MGS, or some other REAL game that deserves the recognition and respect

GOW hasn't exhibited any advancements in gameplay and all we've seen from MGS is a cutscene - no gameplay.

Nope. Consumers have spoken. KillZone is the benchmark.

You're forgetting, that average game it was, KZ was gorgeous. Anyone expecting KZ not to amongst the best, if not the best, looking game when its released will be disappointed.
It also has a great soundtrack, and an awesome story. Every review spoke of missed potential, why is the assumption it won't turn out gold with more time on the most powerful system available?
The development team has grown enormously, Sony acquired the studio, budget must be huge, I expect great things personally.

 

[scooby_dooby]

Anyone? I doubt it. Give it a shot.

Give me the money.

Consumers have not 'spoken' they've been FOOLED. OF course a scripted movie 'looked fun', but it's fake, it's not real, it will never come into existence, so who cares?

Real games will come out and create real benchmarks. KZ2 will come out probably be so overhyped it will never be able to deliver, and it will dissapear from the minds of the consumers forever.

I understand what your'e saying, that KZ has captured the imaginations of consumers as to what they expect next gen games to look like. But, that's what generally what happens when you show gullible people a faked movie! A whopping 24% of B3D users still think killzone was realtime!!!

All I'm saying, is it's an unfair method of capturing those imaginations, it's not as if they just made a trailer, they DELIBERATELY made a movie to look as if it was an actual game, and way you wanna slice it, thats fuckin sleazy...

 

[Kabbage]

All I'm saying, is it's an unfair method of capturing those imaginations, it's not as if they just made a trailer, they DELIBERATELY made a movie to look as if it was an actual game, and way you wanna slice it, thats fuckin sleazy...

So there are rules now as to how someone can go about garnering attention for their platform/game?

They put it out their it is still up to the consumer to accept it or reject it, sorry they arent going about it in a way you think is fair.

 

[seismologist]

Guerilla is talented. technically speaking they probably have the best looking FPS on the PS2 right now.

I'm sure that KZ2 graphics wont disappoint. And I wouldn't be surprised if in some ways it looks better than the teaser CG.

 

[TrungGap]

So there are rules now as to how someone can go about garnering attention for their platform/game?

They put it out their it is still up to the consumer to accept it or reject it, sorry they arent going about it in a way you think is fair.

There's a difference between saying with this cg we're showing you what next gen could bring you, then this is realtime on our console. One is the intent to motivate, the other is the intent to deceive.

 

[Inane_Dork]

Sure it does. It is quite simply represents the visuals, animation and overall polish we expect to see this generation. It may have been CG, but it epitomized next-gen.

The video represented all that, sure. That's why I said the game does not deserve such honor. If KZ PS3 comes out and really plays like the video, then the distinction will be unnecessary. Until then, I'm not giving the game any props for what was in the video.

 

[Kabbage]

There's a difference between saying with this cg we're showing you what next gen could bring you, then this is realtime on our console. One is the intent to motivate, the other is the intent to deceive.

Isnt that what said, it represents what they hope to achieve :| but then again they are Sony first party

I wonder if Crackdown will look just like the CG MS showed of it.

 

[bRoNx]

"Same ol' sh*t dawg, just a different day" - DMX

C'mon people...it's the same old tired argument everytime KZ or GG news surface.

Why do some people feel that it's necessary to kill any hype generated by this game. Sure, you may feel it's unfair how some of this came about, but you first need to understand marketing, and how to get your message across effectively.

Accept it or not, it's had the desired affect on the haters as much as the fans, because you just can't shut up about it. If you really wanted to kill the SONY/KZ hype-mobile, JUST IGNORE IT! Simple. No fuel...no fire!

I for one am looking forward to what GG can produce after promising so much. I'm well aware of the fact that this video is CG, so I don't need anyone posting in every single KZ thread "They lied!" or making accusations like they mislead you or whatever.

I don't care. Hell, even if the game looks nothing like that CG sequence, I'm still getting it.

But what I do want (if anyone cares) is a thread where those who have something decent (or fans to be exact) about the game or are genuinely hopeful of what the PS3 might bring them, can discuss the game without tro...you know what I mean.

Edit: When is the PlayStation event?

 

[ChryZ]

Is it "very soon" yet?

 

[_phil_]

Give me the money.

Consumers have not 'spoken' they've been FOOLED. OF course a scripted movie 'looked fun', but it's fake, it's not real, it will never come into existence, so who cares?

Real games will come out and create real benchmarks. KZ2 will come out probably be so overhyped it will never be able to deliver, and it will dissapear from the minds of the consumers forever.

I understand what your'e saying, that KZ has captured the imaginations of consumers as to what they expect next gen games to look like. But, that's what generally what happens when you show gullible people a faked movie! A whopping 24% of B3D users still think killzone was realtime!!!

All I'm saying, is it's an unfair method of capturing those imaginations, it's not as if they just made a trailer, they DELIBERATELY made a movie to look as if it was an actual game, and way you wanna slice it, thats fuckin sleazy...

you are in a worst mindset than guerilla would ever be.Bending reality too much toward your hate ,will just hurt yourself.

 

[fulcizombie]

The critics might of thrashed it, but most PS fans don't seem to care....they seem to enjoy it.

Regardless of the whole E3 ordeal, I'd be surprise if they are able to make an improvement on the next game. That would be an interesting turn around..........or maybe the best FPS on PS3 ends up being the one we least suspect *points to I-8*

Well,it sold like shit in the U.S so i really doubt "most ps fans enjoyed it".


Anyway by the time PS3 killzone comes out,many fps will have been released for the ps3(+the xbox360) so i bet that the game won't be hyped at all by that time.PS3 fans are already discussing about the new MOH and when I-8 is fully unvieiled all that will be remembered from killzone will be the E3 trailer.

However it is magic how sony can generate such interest(even short term) for sequels to games like Killzone.The same people that are drooling over ......killzone 2 would laugh if MS showed a brute force(a game that sold better and had better reviews than killzone) sequel.

 

[typoEDR]

Well,it sold like shit in the U.S so i really doubt "most ps fans enjoyed it".


Anyway by the time PS3 killzone comes out,many fps will have been released for the ps3(+the xbox360) so i bet that the game won't be hyped at all by that time.PS3 fans are already discussing about the new MOH and when I-8 is fully unvieiled all that will be remembered from killzone will be the E3 trailer.

However it is magic how sony can generate such interest(even short term) for sequels to games like Killzone.The same people that are drooling over ......killzone 2 would laugh if MS showed a brute force(a game that sold better and had better reviews than killzone) sequel.

So a development house can't possibly improve over its previous titles?

That's good to know...

 

[fulcizombie]

So a development house can't possibly improve over its previous titles?

That's good to know...

It's one thing to hope for an improvement to a sequel for a 60-65% rated game and another thing to treat that game like the second coming or something.The fact that guerila(and that's the truth no matter how some people try to ignore it) has only made horrible games thus far doesn't help matters either(just check out their past "acheivements" in game development).

 

[Powderkeg]

So a development house can't possibly improve over its previous titles?

That's good to know...

I wouldn't say "Can't" but I can count the number of development houses that have produced a significantly better sequel to a ho-hum game on one hand.

It's not impossible, but if you were going to bet, the odds are ovewhelmingly in favor of Killzone 2 being no better, and possibly worse than the original. A singificant improvement would be extremely unusual.

 

[seismologist]

It should be interesting to see how GG performs now that they are under Sony's wing.

 

[Inane_Dork]

It should be interesting to see how GG performs now that they are under Sony's wing.

They weren't before?

 

[bRoNx]

I always believed that KZ would've been a much better game if it were on the XBOX...purely because of the extra grunt it had. Some reviewers also pointed towards hardware limitations as a reason for some of the things lacking/poorly executed in the game.

The game had great art direction (I personally hate fighting against aliens etc.) and was one of the best PS2 FPS graphics-wise. But the AI was non-existent, there were alot of graphics glitches etc. so here's hoping the PS3 will remedy that!

Fingers crossed!