Japanese Mag: Wii vs PS3
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RancidLunchmeat
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hupfinsgack said:
So it's not measuring or comparing preorders. It's a graph of those people who are requesting to be notified of when they can pre-order.
I'd say that's an important distinction. Then again, I'm probably the only one.
hupfinsgack, are those really pre-orders or "notify me when there's a pre-order" ? It looks more like the latter to me (Disclaimer: my Japanese is at pre-school level, barely enough for reading Japanese manga, with a handy dictionary I might add ).
This part is OT: I want to know personally because I'm waiting for a pre-order move in US. If not, I want to get onto that Japan list (if Amazon JP ships outside Japan). Also any info on what's in the pre-order package and the price (if it's indeed a pre-order) ?
EDIT: Ok, I read the follow-up responses after I posted. It's not a pre-order campaign.
). This part is OT: I want to know personally because I'm waiting for a pre-order move in US. If not, I want to get onto that Japan list (if Amazon JP ships outside Japan). Also any info on what's in the pre-order package and the price (if it's indeed a pre-order) ?
EDIT: Ok, I read the follow-up responses after I posted. It's not a pre-order campaign.
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RancidLunchmeat
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hupfinsgack said:
Ahh.. gotcha. I always find it strange that it's written as 'July 11th', and abbreviated as 11/7.
patsu said:hupfinsgack, are those really pre-orders or "notify me when there's a pre-order" ? It looks more like the latter to me (Disclaimer: my Japanese is at pre-school level, barely enough for reading Japanese manga, with a handy dictionary I might add
As I said in my post before, it's "notify me when preordering begins".
RancidLunchmeat already pointed out that it's an important difference.
EDIT: As for the date it tried to make it easy for the natives.
Angelcurio
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Just to clarify some things.
I never, ever stated that those graphs were actual preorders.
Actually, the purpose of the amazon page is to put your email adress so they can contact you when they start accepting preorders. Amazon decided to put the current status of the situation in a graph, so it is considered a poll based in the quantity of people waiting to be notified when the preorders starts.
The article was originally posted in Famitsu, a site that i visit frequently using babelfish.
The purpose of the post, is that the same page (famitsu) that posted a poll in which the Wii was having a big advantage over the ps3, was the same one that posted this poll that clearly contradicts the one made by themselvers. The funny thing is that the amazon poll is more acurate since is based on people that are going to get the hardware and are just waiting for the notification of when the preorders are going to start.
Now regarding the situation of Wii vs. PS3, i dont think we can make a fair judgement before TGS. The current japanese interest on both consoles is mainly based on the most recent game show (E3), since last year TGS did not have playable games for any console. Now in TGS is when both Sony and Nintendo will show the big guns and the Japanese are going to try both consoles first hand. After TGS, the situation could change drastically favoring any of the consoles. Either people end up extremely impressed with the Wii, or find its control a mere gimmick. Or people end up extremely impressed when the ps3 japanese titles are revealed, or they just simply consider the ps3 more of the same.
Once again, i think is too early to tell what will happen, specially when the japanese havent tried any of the consoles first hand.
Finally, as Shifty Geezer said, post counts have nothing to do with people, i know you have to start building trust over time with your posts, but i do not think that having a great post count makes you a more believable source of news or information.
PS: Am a male, and my language is spanish. Normally check some japanese videogame sites with the help of babelfish.
I never, ever stated that those graphs were actual preorders.
Actually, the purpose of the amazon page is to put your email adress so they can contact you when they start accepting preorders. Amazon decided to put the current status of the situation in a graph, so it is considered a poll based in the quantity of people waiting to be notified when the preorders starts.
The article was originally posted in Famitsu, a site that i visit frequently using babelfish.
The purpose of the post, is that the same page (famitsu) that posted a poll in which the Wii was having a big advantage over the ps3, was the same one that posted this poll that clearly contradicts the one made by themselvers. The funny thing is that the amazon poll is more acurate since is based on people that are going to get the hardware and are just waiting for the notification of when the preorders are going to start.
Now regarding the situation of Wii vs. PS3, i dont think we can make a fair judgement before TGS. The current japanese interest on both consoles is mainly based on the most recent game show (E3), since last year TGS did not have playable games for any console. Now in TGS is when both Sony and Nintendo will show the big guns and the Japanese are going to try both consoles first hand. After TGS, the situation could change drastically favoring any of the consoles. Either people end up extremely impressed with the Wii, or find its control a mere gimmick. Or people end up extremely impressed when the ps3 japanese titles are revealed, or they just simply consider the ps3 more of the same.
Once again, i think is too early to tell what will happen, specially when the japanese havent tried any of the consoles first hand.
Finally, as Shifty Geezer said, post counts have nothing to do with people, i know you have to start building trust over time with your posts, but i do not think that having a great post count makes you a more believable source of news or information.
PS: Am a male, and my language is spanish. Normally check some japanese videogame sites with the help of babelfish.
hupfinsgack said:
Percentage? by this then it looks like Wii is getting something like 47% and ps3 (60gb) 53% but then ps3 (20gb) also is getting 22%. Where's the extra percentage coming from or am I reading it wrong?
Is it 22%(?) of all ps3 interest is for the 20gb model?
fyi -
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3442&Itemid=2&limit=1&limitstart=2
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I don't rate any of these polls as indicative of anything much. Polls need a lot of work and balancing to be any use. eg. In October Famitsu had a poll on next-gen interest.RancidLunchmeat said:
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1331&Itemid=2
XB360 got 24% of pollers (from >2000 polled) saying they were interested in getting XB360, but I'm not seeing 24% of console sales in Japan being XB360s...
But hey, if people want to take such a survey as indicative of what the future holds, by all means do. I'll stop trying to point out how different surveys give different results.
Either way, it shows another poll, only this one doesn't place the Wii in front, thus contradicting the original post poll which you asked 'is this poll being contradicted anywhere?' In answer to you question, yes, where one poll list 74% of gamers interested in Wii and 17% in PS3, another poll list maybe 45% Wii and 55% PS3. Whether that interest is preorders or just people saying 'I'm interested', it's still a measure of interest from a survey, as equally limited in each poll, and we've no way of knowing which one is more representative of the greater buying public.TheChefO said:
Angelcurio said:
Agreed the more time we have and closer we get to launch the better picture we will have of consumer acceptance. However this trend doesn't stop there. We will also have a better idea where the market is going a year from now and even better two years from now. Point is, right now this is how the market is shaping up. We will obviously revisit this issue as events unfold such as TGS but as it is, sentiment is not so hot for ps3 in Japan. And you can't judge system userbase by the hardcore gamers who will be preordering systems.
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Shifty Geezer said:
Hypothetical: If ps3 were to go on sale for $1000 (perhaps they decided to drop in a hybrid bluray/hddvd player), would it sell out in preorders? Obviously this would depend on how many units we're talking about, but under a million units I think they would worldwide. While this may dwarf preorder sales of a system like Wii, it doesn't mean the system will have a larger userbase in the end.
Angelcurio
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The wii-mote was revealed during nintendo´s keynote at last years TGS, so i wouldnt be surprised if they go head-to-head with sony this year as well.ZiFF said:
No, to my knowledge the DS had way more preorders as well, but the numbers may be skewed because of the known shipment totals affecting how many COULD be preordered.pc999 said:
I guess they exceeded the DS' numbers as well as the PSP's, but to my knowledge it was 2 million+ for the DS. Many stores didn't seem to accept pre-orders for the PSP, and rather wanted to attract huge lines that day.
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