Japan Sales Thread *renamed

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Console	Aantal	Vorige week	Totaal
PSP	95.487	15.564	6.012.846
NDS	79.974	77.488	19.352.657
Wii	26.181	29.088	3.565.062
PS2	13.128	13.360	20.727.421
PS3	13.101	13.248	1.145.829
360	1.243	1.286	408.589
GBA	836	550	15.345.235
NGC	97	82	4.179.112

PSP on #1 because of the FF release but we all know that wont last very long. DS seems a bit low, they usually did 100K+ for a long time but sales seem to slow down a bit. Wii is getting a bit scary. I guess that its just a lack of software buy maybe the hype is dying a bit too (as far as the 9months of good selling can be called a hype)? Ps3 is doing as usuall. Just as wii the lack of software is probably holding sales down as the price cant be the problem anymore in Japan as you can already get a ps3 for 300 euro's.
 
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=191890

Software:

01. [PSP] Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII - 487,000 / NEW
02. [NDS] Pokemon Fushigi no Dungeon: Toki no Tankentai - 300,000 / NEW
03. [NDS] Pokemon Fushigi no Dungeon: Yami no Tankentai - 269,000 / NEW
04. [PSP] Fate/Tiger Colosseum - 55,000 / NEW
05. [PS2] Another Century's Episode 3: The Final - 31,000 / 218,000
06. [NDS] Taiko no Tatsujin DS - 24,000 / 131,000
07. [WII] Mario Party 8 - 24,000 / 756,000
08. [NDS] Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles - Ring of Fates - 24,000 / 316,000
09. [PS2] Sengoku Musou 2 Mushouden - 14,000 / 274,000
10. [NDS] My Housekeeping Diary - 13,000 / 195,000
11. [NDS] Brain Age 2
12. [NDS] Flash Focus: Vision Training in Minutes a Day
13. [NDS] Mario Kart DS
14. [WII] Wii Sports
15. [WII] Wii Play
16. [NDS] New Super Mario Bros.
17. [PS3] Bladestorm
18. [PS2] Jissen Pachinko Hisshouhou! CR Sakura Taisen
19. [PSP] Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories
20. [NDS] Phoenix Wright 3
21. [NDS] Brain Age
22. [NDS] Animal Crossing DS
23. [PS2] J-League Winning Eleven 2007: Club Championship
24. [NDS] The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass
25. [NDS] Gakken DS: Shin Toeic Test Kanzen Kouryaku
26. [NDS] More English Training
27. [PS3] Hot Shots Golf 5
28. [NDS] Donkey Kong: Jungle Climber
29. [NDS] Kanji Brain Test 2M
30. [NDS] One Piece: Gear Spirit

NDS - 18
PS2 - 4
Wii - 3
PSP - 3
PS3 - 2

Hardware:

Code:
Hardware - This Week | Last Week | LTD
1. PSP - 95,487 | 15,564 | 6,012,846
2. NDS - 79,974 | 77,488 | 19,352,657
3. WII - 26,181 | 29,088 | 3,565,062
4. PS2 - 13,128 | 13,360 | 20,727,421
5. PS3 - 13,101 | 13,248 | 1,145,829
6. 360 - 1,243 | 1,286 | 408,589
7. GBA - 836 | 550 | 15,345,235
8. NGC - 97 | 82 | 4,179,112
 
tongue_of_colicab said:
the price cant be the problem anymore in Japan as you can already get a ps3 for 300 euro's.
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The problem is that they are not using Euros in Japan... It's still 50k yen and it's much more than the competition. Now I don't know how much 50k yen is actually, but translating it to Euros is not the all giving answer.

In essence I think that to a degree the price is a problem.

edit: on a another note the Wii numbers have dropped to a quite low level... PS3 won't need a huge boost to get past those numbers, Wii is still under 4 million units in Japan. So anything can happen there. Sluggish sales for Wii is concerning as in that situation the price really can't be a problem.
 
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PSP quite up as expected. In terms of software Pokemon could be seen to just have edged out Final Fantasy, if you add up the sales of the two different versions, but the different isn't large. Also interesting to see another PSP title at 4, albeit with more humble sales - it's likely though that the crowd that gets a new PSP for Final Fantasy will also pick up one or two other games (eventually).

Interesting by the way, that you can basically say that handheld gaming has grown significantly in Japan. If you add the NDS and PSP numbers, you end up 25 million, which is a growth of 66% vs GBA's sales. I don't know if that is too simplistic?
 
Dr Evil said:
The problem is that they are not using Euros in Japan... It's still 50k yen and it's much more than the competition. Now I don't know how much 50k yen is actually, but translating it to Euros is not the all giving answer.

In essence I think that to a degree the price is a problem.

edit: on a another note the Wii numbers have dropped to a quite low level... PS3 won't need a huge boost to get past those numbers, Wii is still under 4 million units in Japan. So anything can happen there. Sluggish sales for Wii is concerning as in that situation the price really can't be a problem.
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And if it would be 600e it would be 100k yen. The fact is that its relative cheap so price cant be that much of a problem.

Wii indeed is dropping hard, like I said its probably the lack of software for a large part but we will see what it really is in about 2 months when SMG, SSB en Wii fit will be released.
 
I did think it was interesting to note that HD is moving along very quickly now in Japan, for regular television broadcasts. It will be interesting to see if this has an impact on the consoles as well.
 
tongue_of_colicab said:
And if it would be 600e it would be 100k yen. The fact is that its relative cheap so price cant be that much of a problem.
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It is quite cheap, but so is Wii and X360 ( I know 360 doesn't matter in Japan...) Price relation to your competition matters a lot. Let's say you love Coca-Cola and think Pepsi is pretty good, but not as good as Coke, If Coke bottle is 2.5€ and Pepsi is 2.35€ you don't think about it You'll just buy the Coke, but if the Coke is 2€ and the Pepsi is 1€ you'll think about it. I know it's not apples to apples but said it anyway :)
 
Arwin said:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=191890

Hardware:

Code:
Hardware - This Week | Last Week | LTD
1. PSP - 95,487 | 15,564 | 6,012,846
2. NDS - 79,974 | 77,488 | 19,352,657
3. WII - 26,181 | 29,088 | 3,565,062
4. PS2 - 13,128 | 13,360 | 20,727,421
5. PS3 - 13,101 | 13,248 | 1,145,829
6. 360 - 1,243 | 1,286 | 408,589
7. GBA - 836 | 550 | 15,345,235
8. NGC - 97 | 82 | 4,179,112
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Damn the PSP is way up just from Crisis Core. And this is even before the PSP Slim launched in Japan which was the 20th.

I bought a slim on the 20th. And today I went to go pick up some accessories/games for it at yodobashi camera in akihabara and there was not just 1 line there were 2 lines of people mid day on a friday trying to buy PSPs. I stood in line at least 15 mins to get to the counter. Next weeks tracking is no doubt going to show crazy PSP numbers.

Also while I was there I saw a huge pile of Wii's. So the supply issues seem to be over for the Wii.
 
Early word is PSP might sell as much as 200,000 this week. First day sales of the slim and lite were estimated at 130,000.

We could be seeing a big change in momentum for PSP here.

And we also seem to be seeing the smallest of cracks in Nintendo's Japan facade lately...DS will lose to PSP at least two weeks in a row now, and of course wii sales are seasonally down a lot the last few weeks.
 
Yes, well, I don't think Nintendo is worried just yet, to be honest. The NDS has already sold several million more than the GBA ever did, and it will take the PSP in Japan over 20 weeks of selling 200.000 a week before the PSP has reached that point. ;)

Still, it's a good time for the PSP to pick up.
 
Rangers said:
We could be seeing a big change in momentum for PSP here.
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Then again we may just see a little rush of pent-up demand from people who were waiting for then slim model. Content is still the same, so the reasons to buy the PSP now instead of a month ago are pretty...slim ;)

As it is, I was reconsidering getting a PSP for a moment, with the lite, and there's just not the games there for me. So I'd be surprised if Sony can generate long-term momentum from a slim hardware that is fundamentally the same as the old machine.
 
Arwin said:
Yes, well, I don't think Nintendo is worried just yet, to be honest. The NDS has already sold several million more than the GBA ever did, and it will take the PSP in Japan over 20 weeks of selling 200.000 a week before the PSP has reached that point. ;)
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I doubt PSP can sell that well without non-games.
 
betan said:
I doubt PSP can sell that well without non-games.
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The PSP Go GPS application will make it much more appealing to me. That together with the Echochrome game may be enough to tip me over for a buy if there will be some nice priced bundles.

If they had added a touch screen and a stylus they would have opened the door to a world of new applications, but they may be saving that for a future integration with a mobile phone. That Sony Ericsson guy gave some ambiguous answer about a future PSP phone.
 
Arwin said:
Since we were discussing Japan, and since Japan just had Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core PSP released, your statement seems somewhat flawed. ;)
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And the DS also has a bunch of FF games. It wont go by one or two games and usually FF games sell great for one or two weeks and then they are gone from the sales list.
 
Crossbar said:
The PSP Go GPS application will make it much more appealing to me. That together with the Echochrome game may be enough to tip me over for a buy if there will be some nice priced bundles.
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Go! GPS, Go! Cam and related stuff are definitely non-games but they may not have the appeal of Brainage or English learning software in general.

I hope Echochrome gets the appreciation the concept deserves but it's in danger of being too complex for the common Joe.

If they had added a touch screen and a stylus they would have opened the door to a world of new applications, but they may be saving that for a future integration with a mobile phone. That Sony Ericsson guy gave some ambiguous answer about a future PSP phone.
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I don't think Sony really had the option of adding new input methods or improving hardware much as it would break forward compatibility of PSP1.
 
The PSP has a webbrowser, plays various video and music formats, supports RSS including subscriptions, streaming, can control a PS3 remotely, etc. I think these are plenty of non-game applications, and they obviously have their appeal, as lots of PSP owners in the West use their PSPs for this kind of thing as much ore even more than for games. And now it has TV out for these things as well. Video and voicechat is coming and the GPS stuff,e tc. That's plenty of non-game stuff right there.

It even has a game like Mind Quiz. However, what it doesn't have is a stylus and Nintendo software, or backward compatibility with GBA games. That's an important factor in the non-game software category in the sense that it is an important reason why the DS is selling so well, doubly so in Japan.
 
As far as non gaming goes I think you to look at the software as in braintraining kind of games and not hardware addons. The point with the hardware addons is that almost nobody will buy them as a default option. Somebody who wants a GPS will probably just buy a tomtom or a phone with built in gps. Not use his PSP. Same goes for playing music. The browser is nice, but how much free acces points do we have here? though that depends on the country ofcouse as Canada has alot of free acces points compared to about zero in Holland.

Its still primairly a gaming machine. Those extra featues are nice but I dont think alot of people will buy a psp because of those. Well, maybe they do as there arnt that much games, but if I were looking for a music/video/gps machine psp wouldnt be very high up my list.
 
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