Is there anything that makes this image an obvious render?
- Thread starter Rys
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try:
http://images3.deviantart.com/i/2004/172/a/0/Saloon.jpg
As for the realism:
The pillows are a give away as someone else mentioned. Another is the wood grain panelling on the counter. It looks very texture mapped. Another is the handle on the patio door, very CSGish. Another is that there are some lighting artifacts on the ceiling that are rather unnatural. Finally, the lighting on the right hand wall (where there are no windows, and no windows across from it) seems to be fairly bright given how dark the exposure outside is. The inside should probably look somewhat darker (especially along the ceiling/wall edge).
Nite_Hawk
http://images3.deviantart.com/i/2004/172/a/0/Saloon.jpg
As for the realism:
The pillows are a give away as someone else mentioned. Another is the wood grain panelling on the counter. It looks very texture mapped. Another is the handle on the patio door, very CSGish. Another is that there are some lighting artifacts on the ceiling that are rather unnatural. Finally, the lighting on the right hand wall (where there are no windows, and no windows across from it) seems to be fairly bright given how dark the exposure outside is. The inside should probably look somewhat darker (especially along the ceiling/wall edge).
Nite_Hawk
pat777 said:bloodbob said:Its clear that its not all rendered as such the background is clearly imaged based. But with full GI indoor scenes can look that good. ( Trying to render a forest is alot harder).
Full GI can make a forest look good as long as you use MANY MANY polygons.
Oh the many many polies isn't a problem its making all the trees look natural yet different thats the problem.
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Look at the wood bar. WAY too shiny, and nothing, even if it is ridiculously shiny, reflects like that.
Mr. Travis
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looks fine except for the lack of artifacting from film, or artifacts from jpeg, any fresh render is pretty obvious to people who know renders... would this fool the average person if they didn't know and you added some artifacting, probably
I see your point. I still think a forest would require much more polygons than in door areas.bloodbob said:pat777 said:bloodbob said:Its clear that its not all rendered as such the background is clearly imaged based. But with full GI indoor scenes can look that good. ( Trying to render a forest is alot harder
Full GI can make a forest look good as long as you use MANY MANY polygons.
Oh the many many polies isn't a problem its making all the trees look natural yet different thats the problem.
pat777 said:
you can get away with some tricks that help reduce the poly count, but you are pretty much correct. The only indoor scene I ever created that this might not have been true for was a model of the cathedral of Notre Dame in Chartres France. It has *alot* of polys, though you can't really tell as I never could render it with a high resolution and there was a lot of artifacting from the lighting.
This ended up being the most photo-realistic output I was able to get:
Nite_Hawk
Nite_Hawk said:pat777 said:
you can get away with some tricks that help reduce the poly count, but you are pretty much correct. The only indoor scene I ever created that this might not have been true for was a model of the cathedral of Notre Dame in Chartres France. It has *alot* of polys, though you can't really tell as I never could render it with a high resolution and there was a lot of artifacting from the lighting.
This ended up being the most photo-realistic output I was able to get:
Nite_Hawk
I think subdivisions/NURBs would be useful for that indoor scene.
First thing I normally look for are how the shadows look with the kind of lighting involved. One look at the window frames' shadows on the floor (top center as well as bottom right) tells me it's not a photograph.
Of course, if you hadn't asked me "Is it real or is it Memorex?" in the first place, I would've simply said "Nice pad" without ever caring if it's a photo or a render!
Of course, if you hadn't asked me "Is it real or is it Memorex?" in the first place, I would've simply said "Nice pad" without ever caring if it's a photo or a render!
Rys:
there are GI artifacts on the ceiling. not the banding, as I believe that those are caused by venetian (?) blinds on the door.
Dave:
there are some places on the bumper where I can see hard lines where there's a polygon edge. I find NURBS are still best for vehicles. Also, proper HDRI lighting would have yielded much more realistic lighting, as it is the van does not fit into the background.
Ragemare:
there doesnt appear to be any SSS on the skin, it sticks out like a sore thumb. there's also either some bad parameterization or bad weighting going on with the left elbow.
there are GI artifacts on the ceiling. not the banding, as I believe that those are caused by venetian (?) blinds on the door.
Dave:
there are some places on the bumper where I can see hard lines where there's a polygon edge. I find NURBS are still best for vehicles. Also, proper HDRI lighting would have yielded much more realistic lighting, as it is the van does not fit into the background.
Ragemare:
there doesnt appear to be any SSS on the skin, it sticks out like a sore thumb. there's also either some bad parameterization or bad weighting going on with the left elbow.
I am impressed with these images.
Many well done CG images can be looked at here
http://www.caligari.com/Gallery/OneManShow/default.asp?Cate=GOneManShow
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