Inside X360: Jeff Henshaw Interview Part One AND TWO

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TrungGap said:
You know what's funny? I think both $ony and Micro$oft have different strategies. Micro$oft's approach is more formulated. You envision a product. You throw it out there...Wait for the feedback, adjust your product and try again. M$ has used this tactic with every one of its product. Remember Windows 1.0, 3.0? Xbox 1, was it's first attempt. It will continue to fine tune its product until it's one complete package. Much like M$ Office.

Not to be outdone, Kutaragi fired back by using a karate analogy. "Microsoft is trailing behind us, but they are not a threat. They are good at improving [on products], but we will be advancing to the next level with revolutionary technology. Beating us for a short moment is like accidentally winning a point from a Shihan (Karate master), and Microsoft is still not a black belt. Just like with their operating systems, they might come out with something good around the third generation of their release," he said.

Sorry, I couldn't help myself. :p

Part Two was interesting.
 
meh, don't bring a knife to a gun fight is all I have to say :p :LOL: *cue Indiana Jones*


Yeah, it was really neat going over the interface. So are there no free weekends or.... what? It didn't sound like the Silver service included gameplay at all.
 
I'm pretty sure that every weekend for the silver service is NOT free only promotional weekends which has led to the confusion.
 
I hate how Xbox Live is becoming a canned version of what you can already get on the PC. It almost reminds me of Web TV.

If they want a PC like experience they should just go all the way and have it run a version of Windows.
 
seismologist said:
I hate how Xbox Live is becoming a canned version of what you can already get on the PC. It almost reminds me of Web TV.

If they want a PC like experience they should just go all the way and have it run a version of Windows.

I used to think so, until I got live. It really is a combination of things that are nothing new, but it ends up being really nice. Maybe it is that developers have to use live, providing a consistent interface, maybe it is that almost everyone has mics, making team based games a blast (even CS games don't have that kind of attach rate with microphones), but I really dig Live after using it.
 
Damn Henshaw, can someone give me clarification on whether or not I can stream videos from a WinXP PC to the X360?
 
seismologist said:
I hate how Xbox Live is becoming a canned version of what you can already get on the PC. It almost reminds me of Web TV.

If they want a PC like experience they should just go all the way and have it run a version of Windows.

No thanks, the simplified system is really great, its very easy to use on Xbox1. X360's interface looks a lot better already.

If there's one thing that has me sold on X360 its XBL, if its two things its that amazing looking controller :)
 
gurgi said:
seismologist said:
I hate how Xbox Live is becoming a canned version of what you can already get on the PC. It almost reminds me of Web TV.

If they want a PC like experience they should just go all the way and have it run a version of Windows.

I used to think so, until I got live. It really is a combination of things that are nothing new, but it ends up being really nice. Maybe it is that developers have to use live, providing a consistent interface, maybe it is that almost everyone has mics, making team based games a blast (even CS games don't have that kind of attach rate with microphones), but I really dig Live after using it.

I'm not going to get another Xbox Live debate. I just wanted to say that it looks like they've adding so many menus and pages that it would make sense to run full blown Windows.
Just pop open IE and go to the Xbox page for your downloads. I think an interface like that would be a lot more attractive.
 
seismologist said:
gurgi said:
seismologist said:
I hate how Xbox Live is becoming a canned version of what you can already get on the PC. It almost reminds me of Web TV.

If they want a PC like experience they should just go all the way and have it run a version of Windows.

I used to think so, until I got live. It really is a combination of things that are nothing new, but it ends up being really nice. Maybe it is that developers have to use live, providing a consistent interface, maybe it is that almost everyone has mics, making team based games a blast (even CS games don't have that kind of attach rate with microphones), but I really dig Live after using it.

I'm not going to get another Xbox Live debate.

Heh, well then don't. I'm still going to respond to your posts if I feel like it.

I just wanted to say that it looks like they've adding so many menus and pages that it would make sense to run full blown Windows.
Just pop open IE and go to the Xbox page for your downloads. I think an interface like that would be a lot more attractive.

Lol, full blown windows...you've got to be kidding me. It looks just like Xbox live except they are adding in the additional functionalit of Halo2, making all games live aware, and are adding in new pages for micro transactions and stuff that already exists as popup windows in live.

Besides, if you really thought they were adding in an entire operating system's worth of features, I dunno how you could possibly spin it as bad thing and retain any kind of credibility.
 
Korrupt said:
Damn Henshaw, can someone give me clarification on whether or not I can stream videos from a WinXP PC to the X360?

going from the article i would have to say no... for xp it sounds like there is only photo and music, you'll need mce to do videos (although the win service he mentioned, windows media connect, does allow videos right?)
 
golem said:
Korrupt said:
Damn Henshaw, can someone give me clarification on whether or not I can stream videos from a WinXP PC to the X360?

going from the article i would have to say no... for xp it sounds like there is only photo and music, you'll need mce to do videos (although the win service he mentioned, windows media connect, does allow videos right?)

:(
 
gurgi said:
seismologist said:
gurgi said:
I used to think so, until I got live. It really is a combination of things that are nothing new, but it ends up being really nice. Maybe it is that developers have to use live

You know I haven't tried Xbox Live yet so Im'[ sure it probably changes the way I'd view things but you know what? Running windows and playing PC games on a 50" HDTV tends to change the way you view things too.

I dont like what Im seeing on the Xbox Live interface. It starting to like too much like AOL. Not that AOL doesn't have some nice canned features because I'm sure it does.
But no matter how nice the features, I'd still never use it myself. :)
 
LOL, I also use a 50" HDTV as my monitor. Wireless KB Mouse, It does tend to change the way you view the computer/console/hometheater space.

Watching all of my movies from whatever format I want all out to my fixed pixel display :)

It also make my that much more excited to use the X360/Ps3 in my TV's native resolution. (720p)

MoH
 
seismologist said:
I hate how Xbox Live is becoming a canned version of what you can already get on the PC. It almost reminds me of Web TV.

If they want a PC like experience they should just go all the way and have it run a version of Windows.
I don't think that's fair.

MS is trying to do a bunch of things people want done but without the *stuff* of PCs. Some will view it as maiming the features. Some will view it as a welcome streamlining. The crowd here is almost certain to fall in with the former more than the general public would.

Going and running a version of Windows brings in a huge amount of things MS doesn't have to consider now. How many people would be happy about security patches for their consoles?
 
seismologist said:
I'd still never use it myself.
nobody cares. done.

Anyway, things are looking bright for X360. I originally thought they might achieve parity with Sony in the U.S., but the more I hear the more it looks like they may well become the market leader here. The more I see of live the more I think it is covertly targeted toward Japan, or at the very least meshes well with the culture. While I'm not sure the average consumer really wants or needs all of this, Microsoft does seem intent on providing it in a quality and easy to use manner.
 
I quite like Live's interface. No need for punk buster or whatever; no incompatibilities or other. There are stats and basically everything you would see in a UT game (except for server lists and the sort). The thing is that it's easy to use and is universal for all online multiplayer games. Universally supported voice chat is also great and sure beats typing.
 
ninelven said:
seismologist said:
I'd still never use it myself.
nobody cares. done.

That's right, just stop me whenever I start making too much sense.

MoHonRi said:
LOL, I also use a 50" HDTV as my monitor. Wireless KB Mouse, It does tend to change the way you view the computer/console/hometheater space.

Watching all of my movies from whatever format I want all out to my fixed pixel display :)

It also make my that much more excited to use the X360/Ps3 in my TV's native resolution. (720p)

MoH

It really does . Something akin to this setup is most likely the future model of living room entertainment will be based on something more complete like a PC offers. Which is why it baffles me when I hear about all the hoops MS is jumping through just to get video to play on the television through your Xbox. Sony and MS have in mind a set top box idealogy. I'm kind of hoping Sony will stick to the Linux path to provide a more versatile solution.
 
PC-Engine said:
Exactly, that's why this Gb ethernet looks like it'll follow the same trend or as Randycat99 would say, "solution looking for a problem"...oh the irony. :LOL:

No, you have that confused with SACD. :rolleyes: Given that your very own benefactor jvd has expressed his own concerns over how easily to saturate the bandwidth of his 100 Mb home network (so maybe you should butt heads with him on that subject...yeah, right), ushering in Gb ethernet for a technology product to own the next half-decade, is really quite justified. You don't have to appreciate it, if you don't see the potentials, but you also don't have to dismiss it just because it won't happen to be in your pet console brand. Honestly...grow-up already. :rolleyes:
 
seismologist said:
It really does . Something akin to this setup is most likely the future model of living room entertainment will be based on something more complete like a PC offers. Which is why it baffles me when I hear about all the hoops MS is jumping through just to get video to play on the television through your Xbox. Sony and MS have in mind a set top box idealogy. I'm kind of hoping Sony will stick to the Linux path to provide a more versatile solution.

Do you realize what a miniscule fraction of the population has the skills to set-up this sort of system?

You've said yourself you have never even used live, so why are you being so adament attacking something you haven't even used? It's ridiculous.

I don't know what hoops you think MS is jumping through, people have been easily streaming video and audio on modded XBOX's for years. If they don't allow for streaming video out of the box is simply to sell more Media Centre PC's.

Nobody wants a full OS on their console. No-one wants viruses and security upgrades. Wireless Keyboard and Mouse to a large screen tv is not the great solution you make it out to be, I have that set-up. It's ok but it's nowhere near my preferred method of playback?

You know what's much easier and more convenient? Fire up my xbox and use the controller to stream video and music off the PC. WAY better than using a mouse on my coffe table, or setting up some sort of desk in the living room.

Not only is it much easier to navigate and use, but the quality of videos is much better as it's streamed digitally and outputs through my XBOX component cables instead of a 20ft single-cable RCA out.

There's pretty much zero benefits of TV-out over console-streaming. I can't think of a single one, except maybe to play PC games with a mouse on your big screen. But what does that have to do with consoles?

These set-top boxes are the future not PC's with TV-out. The casual user 99.9% of people need a box that merges the content on their PC with the A/V equipment in their living room. That's what both these consoles will offer and it's excellent. Web Browsers, Linux and other PC-like features are completely excessive and while they might be "neat" they have no mass appeal.
 
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