Inquirer: Ps3 hardware far from done.

[expletive]

People speak like sony has never handled a console launch before. It's really starting to get ridiculous. The fact is this: specs have been set in stone (with some non-critical exceptions here and there) for some time now and you'd be kidding yourself if you didn't believe that. Sony has most definitely dedicated most, if not nearly all, of its resources on making sure the PlayStation brand continues to be a success...much like MS has with the XBOX brand. That being said...the technology in these boxes are cutting edge, but are still within limits of reason. The architecture has taken nearly 5 years to develop...this is not an overnight venture here (no matter what you people may think). Come sometime in late spring, there will be a sony box in Japanese people's living rooms.

I dont know where your response is even coming from. My post was only responing to dnavas' post on why would you want to bench rsx if its based on the g70.

But since you brought it up, Sony has reduced specs and missed hardware dates before so its not like either would be precedent-setting for them.

 

[overclocked]

5-6 months probably maybe..

 

[rounin]

But since you brought it up, Sony has reduced specs and missed hardware dates before so its not like either would be precedent-setting for them.

When was this ?

 

[ROG27]

I dont know where your response is even coming from. My post was only responing to dnavas' post on why would you want to bench rsx if its based on the g70.

But since you brought it up, Sony has reduced specs and missed hardware dates before so its not like either would be precedent-setting for them.

I quoted you last post by accident...and I don't remember when sony last downgraded specs for anything*...

*if you are refering to psp...they governed the speed of the chip through firmware to increase battery life. The cpu is physically capable of running at 333 mhz...in fact there is a GTA: lcs cheat out now that allows you to unlock the cpu to full throttle and run the game at 60 fps.

 

[-tkf-]

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=4343

The flagship single-card product GeForce 7900 GTX is claimed to be a 32 pixel processor part with a core GPU frequency of 700/750 MHz, and should ship with 1.1ns graphics RAM clocked at 800/900MHz.

 

[London Geezer]

Well, NEVER TRUST THE INQUIRER, but in the end, don't you guys think that if Sony had a working PS3 in their hands, they'd be showing it actually running something? Like when they first had working PSPs, they were very keen in showing it off - to great public happiness.

If Sony had a working PS3, the Bluray PS2 demos at CES would have showed that the video was actually coming off a PS3.

As it stands, all they have is "things" that run videos and programs. Not PS3s.

That's not to say they won't make a july launch (which is still spring).

Not sure how long before launch they showed a working PSP in fact, anyone remember? (i'd rather use PSP as comparison because it's the closest thing they've released and is closest to the Sony we see today. PS2 is from a "different era" of Sony, when they just started fabbing SOME of the chips, so i don't think a comparison would be valid)

 

[Gerry]

That's not to say they won't make a july launch (which is still spring).

July is in springtime? I know it feels like it should be most of the time in the UK but I've always thought of July as 100% summer.

 

[Kryton]

Well, NEVER TRUST THE INQUIRER, but in the end, don't you guys think that if Sony had a working PS3 in their hands, they'd be showing it actually running something? Like when they first had working PSPs, they were very keen in showing it off - to great public happiness.

If Sony had a working PS3, the Bluray PS2 demos at CES would have showed that the video was actually coming off a PS3.

As it stands, all they have is "things" that run videos and programs. Not PS3s.

That's not to say they won't make a july launch (which is still spring).

Not sure how long before launch they showed a working PSP in fact, anyone remember? (i'd rather use PSP as comparison because it's the closest thing they've released and is closest to the Sony we see today. PS2 is from a "different era" of Sony, when they just started fabbing SOME of the chips, so i don't think a comparison would be valid)

If you look at their roadmap though (someone dig out the slide please) CES wasn't even mentioned. All the events where new info/games have been seen are (E3, TGS etc.) and, given their vow of silence, I doubt they would have said anything if it wasn't scheduled. They seem to be obeying their roadmaps, to the letter, which as far as I am concerened, isn't a bad thing - it has MS wondering, people not buying in anticipation etc. etc.

Showing videos has created the reaction they wanted (especially in areas like Japan) so, why change the policy when you are so tantalisingly close to release? Keeping it as-is keeps the rumours and speculation going i.e. interest in the product.

 

[London Geezer]

July is in springtime? I know it feels like it should be most of the time in the UK but I've always thought of July as 100% summer.

July? Sorry i meant June... Technically Summer starts on the 21st June. So July would only be about 10 days "late" for the "spring launch" prediction...

 

[Pugger]

Spring with regards to Sony's "accounts". As for final PS3 hardware, the only way you are going to find out if finished reference units are out there is if the Developers are willing to break NDA's and it appears unlikely. I will take a stab in the dark (!) and say that reference units are available to some developers, whilst others are still biting there nails furiously waiting for the express delivery courier, especially the launch title guys!

 

[London Geezer]

it has MS wondering, people not buying in anticipation etc. etc.

Well, it's not that Sony needs to do anything to stop people from buying X360's. The fact that there are no X360's to buy is what's stopping the people from buying a X360...

 

[Kryton]

Spring with regards to Sony's "accounts". As for final PS3 hardware, the only way you are going to find out if finished reference units are out there is if the Developers are willing to break NDA's and it appears unlikely. I will take a stab in the dark (!) and say that reference units are available to some developers, whilst others are still biting there nails furiously waiting for the express delivery courier, especially the launch title guys!

Look at my post about Mercury systems, people have Cell blades so the only hold up would be RSX. Speaking of which Hexus have an article on a new G70 based Nvidia chip (the 7900GTX) which goes like stink

 

[Gerry]

July? Sorry i meant June... Technically Summer starts on the 21st June. So July would only be about 10 days "late" for the "spring launch" prediction...

Aha. That makes more sense.

 

[rabidrabbit]

Not sure how long before launch they showed a working PSP in fact, anyone remember? (i'd rather use PSP as comparison because it's the closest thing they've released and is closest to the Sony we see today. PS2 is from a "different era" of Sony, when they just started fabbing SOME of the chips, so i don't think a comparison would be valid)

I think it was the E3 2004, I don't remember them showing even the finalised case design before that, so it must have been then they showed the first actual (supposedly) gameplay footages on show floor too.
PSP released in Japan... was it December 2004, so first playable demos were 7 months before launch. But on the other hand, the final hardware was shown at the same time as playable games, so I don't think it is comparable. On the other other hand, is the PS3 hardware we've seen "final", the controller at least is considered a "concept".
Can we except as big a redesign for PS3 as was the prototype PSP vs. final unit.

 

[DuckThor Evil]

Sorry i meant June... Technically Summer starts on the 21st June.

June 21st is midsummer if logic matters... Also W is double V not double U you bastards!

 

[London Geezer]

Also W is double V not double U you bastards!

Hey i'm Italian!!

 

[expletive]

June/july, Spring/Summer, Tomato/Tomahto, as long as they make Oct/Nov for the holidays it doesnt really matter, does it?

 

[expletive]

Look at my post about Mercury systems, people have Cell blades so the only hold up would be RSX. Speaking of which Hexus have an article on a new G70 based Nvidia chip (the 7900GTX) which goes like stink

Isnt there some core logic chips and North/South bridges that could be acting up as well?

 

[Carl B]

Ahem. Having read through the thread now, the post that previously existed here is mooted.

G71 and R580 seem like they will represent a great mid-generational leap in performance, though I thought G71 would be launching in Feb to close distance with ATI's card. Can't wait for news on R600 and G80.

 

[Alpha_Spartan]

Well, NEVER TRUST THE INQUIRER, but in the end, don't you guys think that if Sony had a working PS3 in their hands, they'd be showing it actually running something? Like when they first had working PSPs, they were very keen in showing it off - to great public happiness.

If Sony had a working PS3, the Bluray PS2 demos at CES would have showed that the video was actually coming off a PS3.

As it stands, all they have is "things" that run videos and programs. Not PS3s.

That's not to say they won't make a july launch (which is still spring).

Not sure how long before launch they showed a working PSP in fact, anyone remember? (i'd rather use PSP as comparison because it's the closest thing they've released and is closest to the Sony we see today. PS2 is from a "different era" of Sony, when they just started fabbing SOME of the chips, so i don't think a comparison would be valid)

If they launch in July in Japan, I really don't see a U.S. launch in 2006. I'm basing this off of PS2 supply problems in the U.S. after a launch in March 2000.

However, if Sony chooses a limited roll-out of around 250,000 units, a U.S. launch in 2006 is probable. Anyway you put it, our friends in Europe won't see it until 2007.