Impact of Corrinne Yu for ND/PS4?

Oh, and one more thing: there's a difference between "smart" and "gets things done".

Ain't that the truth. I may be mensa member (finnish mensa, i don't know if US have higher or different requirement for entry) but as for getting things done... eh... yeah, ask me later. Much much later. I consider myself to be sort of unemployable and that is the main reason why I'm freelancer (or rather these days entrepreneur).

Everyone know that "fast, good, cheap - pic two"... well, I only allow "good, cheap" and lie about two of those anyway :LOL:

As for neogaf rumour. They have good mods who ban people if rumour is total BS. Sometimes they give temp bans if rumour is slightly incorrect. So all we have to do it wait if Corrinne Yu is free agent again or that person who posted on gaf is permabanned.

Sitution reminds me of recent Valve drama. Jeri Ellsworth was one of the people who got fired and she is no doubt real life MacGyver. But sometimes office politics are what they are and no matter how good someone is, you can get the boot.
 
Have you ever interviewed tech candidates? I did. Sometimes your initial impression is wrong and you have to fix stuff when time passes. We're humans, we make mistakes all the friggin' time.

Oh, and one more thing: there's a difference between "smart" and "gets things done". I'm smart but I have hard time getting stuff done due to my utter inability to estimate ETAs*. It's possible she's "amazeballs" but so are people at ND so it's not enough to just be smart, you've got to deliver tangible things. "Incompetent" in the initial rumor is about a product of both qualities in my book.

*it took me 5 years to get from "a level of magnitude off the mark" to "took twice longer than expected"; now I just multiply by 3/2 and I'm usually OK.

I have, and its not too difficult to ask good questions and figure out who actually did the implementation of xyz software and who simply listed it on their resume. I agree that smart doesn't equal getting it done and in addition to being a good point I would say sometimes there is inverse correlation between the two but that is where a good interviewer and checking references comes into play.

And as I said earlier, this isn't the best universe - people in gaming talk all the time. If she was incompetent it would water cooler talk for anyone in the industry.

I posted a link to the ND video earlier Jason discusses how they interview people and what they look for. Its exactly what you would expect and I don't see someone misrepresenting their skill-set getting thru that process. Perhaps the culture might not be a fit - that is more difficult to gauge. Especially when you factor in the way ND handles development.
 
If true maybe she's going back to 343 since rumor is that DX12 will offer closer to the metal coding for XB1? Wasn't that one of the reasons she cited for leaving MS?
 
If true maybe she's going back to 343 since rumor is that DX12 will offer closer to the metal coding for XB1? Wasn't that one of the reasons she cited for leaving MS?
DX12 is going to do bugger all for the XB1, so i don't see that having anything to do with this dubious rumour.
 

Ok then...

“While we consider Corrinne Yu a part of our founding family and can’t wait to see where her talent takes her in her new role, we wanted to clarify a repeated misconception, most recently on an IGN podcast. Corrinne worked on a branch of our tools team and did not in fact work on either the Halo 4 or Halo 5 engine or graphics at all. Our current tools team will surely miss her enviable intellect, but we felt it fair to both her and 343 Industries to ensure that the nature of her contributions was not being misrepresented. I wonder if the fantards at NeoGaf realize that this is editable by anyone, at any time. Nah, they're too busy being incredibly dumb. Props to peterb0y.”

So, Jared and Samuel: does IGN know that you are falsifying press releases from Microsoft? Is this a regular journalistic practice at IGN? btw, for writers, you have a poor grasp of the sytanx of PR writing and the obvious grammatical errors are troubling. You are paid writers, yes? Do you care for your craft?

Is that just a WIKI page with access to anyone?

EDIT: Reading what else she has done i find it hard to believe she is "incompetent" , maybe she found her match or rather did not, but incompetent sounds very very hostile vs what she has actually done before. Unless it's all a lie and everything is made up.
 
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Brian Karis worked on the Infiltrator demo. Even though he went back to Epic it's very cool to see ND attracting some top tier talent more than ever it seems :smile:
 
I have, and its not too difficult to ask good questions and figure out who actually did the implementation of xyz software and who simply listed it on their resume.
There's no indication that she misrepresented her achievements during any interview. And that even wasn't my point. My point was that she may not be the right cultural or technical fit for ND and it's possible even competent people missed that during the interview.
 
Have you ever interviewed tech candidates? I did. Sometimes your initial impression is wrong and you have to fix stuff when time passes. We're humans, we make mistakes all the friggin' time.

Oh, and one more thing: there's a difference between "smart" and "gets things done". I'm smart but I have hard time getting stuff done due to my utter inability to estimate ETAs*. It's possible she's "amazeballs" but so are people at ND so it's not enough to just be smart, you've got to deliver tangible things. "Incompetent" in the initial rumor is about a product of both qualities in my book.

*it took me 5 years to get from "a level of magnitude off the mark" to "took twice longer than expected"; now I just multiply by 3/2 and I'm usually OK.
I remember years ago an interview about a very smart German general, called Kurt von Hammerstein, on how to use people in the military and how he did classified his men.

Some of his theories always resound in my head. According to him your profile would be good to work as general staff.

He mentioned that the smart people who are hard working make excellent staff, because they consider every detail. He also said that those who are hard working and stupid are the most dangerous people, a menace. Hence, they should be fired --'cos they create irrelevant work for everyone. :)

So THIS, I certainly know what he is talking about, some people just create work to others 'cos they think high of themselves for being hard workers -which I agree they are-, but many many times the work they want others to do is as fruitless as an oakwood in the desert. It's just like "do this because there has to be something to do".

Additionally, his theory says that the stupid lazy ones must be left alone, they don't do any harm.

Finally, my favourite of his theories. He said that there is another lot. The intelligent lazy ones, and those are the best people at logistics. :)

This always always resounded in my head!! It's so, so very true. Why? Because they are intelligent, and since they are lazy they always manage to find a way to get things done.

By getting things done I mean that they manage to get things done with the less work for everyone involved and distribute the work in a very intelligent way, when time is at a prime.

Do I know what he is talking about...! I've worked with lazy but charming, intelligent people and they know their stuff.

Sure they aren't without criticism because of their laziness -perhaps deservedly so at times-, but those are generally the people who look for the others the most in complicated situations and when pressured get things done like anyone else in the world.

I knew a guy who was certainly that kind of person and he was appointed as Team Manager. He was so lazy sometimes he didn't even go to work, just attended his mobile phone and he'd appear at work if need be.

He was very charming and smart, and amusing at times. Thing is, he knew A LOT! When there was a big problem, there he was, and he fixed it -he was an Electromechanic- with flying colours, then he left and nobody knew of him for some time afterwards.

The company's staff knew him well and they certainly made the right decision, knowing the "risks", despite some criticism he received for being happy-go-lucky at times, when problems arose there he was. He certainly was a better worker than many others. Not to mention that he had a lot of charisma.

I remember this one time he had to make something work and he was tired and holding a heavy tool, he said; "I lack Newtons" :D :D :D :DDDDD -'cos of his lack of strength at the time (he was of a strong build though)

That sentence kinda became famous in the company.
 
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Dumb and productive is the worst type according to ND presentation too.
Well, it's the worst type according to anyone with half a brain. ;)
 
ND has always made wonderful games, and they also have a pretty strong public image. However, the realities inside the studio may be different from that image.

What I'm trying to say is, don't jump to quick conclusions. Especially such ones.
 
ND has always made wonderful games, and they also have a pretty strong public image. However, the realities inside the studio may be different from that image.

What I'm trying to say is, don't jump to quick conclusions. Especially such ones.

This. Also sometimes very smart people can clash with each other due to different ideas, different directions and so on. I've seen that happen and it isn't pretty, often resulting in a brilliant person being pushed out of the company. Or sometimes the company dynamics just aren't a good fit. Ultimately judging from her background i find it extremely unlikely that she was incompetent.
 
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