Image Quality and Framebuffer Speculations for WIP/alpha/beta/E3 games *Read the first post*

vanquish:
definitely not 2xmsaa, you see alot more gradient on the edges. to me looks supersampled.

infamous 2:
the smoke effects in infamous 2 are really ugly tho, low resolution sprites (the ones that dont change angles depending on camera position) the sorta thing you saw used extensively in N64 games.

oh and i noticed this.. half resolution particle buffer right? [ref: http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1268972&postcount=216 ]
image2vp.jpg
 
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Kasersky said:
the smoke effects in infamous 2 are really ugly tho, low resolution sprites (the ones that dont change angles depending on camera position) the sorta thing you saw used extensively in N64 games.
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Same case with virtually every game.
And I don't think they are ugly...look fine to me.

oh and i noticed this
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/2851/image2vp.jpg
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Noticed what ?
The only thing that it shows is that the alpha buffer is of a lower resolution.
 
to me the sprite just looks bad because you see the same asset repeatedly they should go with a more subtle sprite not one that sticks out.
 
Kasersky said:
to me the sprite just looks bad because you see the same asset repeatedly they should go with a more subtle sprite not one that sticks out.
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I don't understand what do you talking about... :???: the smoke seems good to me, really... and the N64 comparison is imho ridicolous...
 
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Kasersky said:
infamous 2:
the smoke effects in infamous 2 are really ugly tho, low resolution sprites (the ones that dont change angles depending on camera position) the sorta thing you saw used extensively in N64 games.

oh and i noticed this.. half resolution particle buffer right? [ref: http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1268972&postcount=216 ]
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/2851/image2vp.jpg
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Well yes it looks really low-res and you can see how it affects the characters polygon edges. Though I dont think the player will face such explosions so close many times for it to be much of a problem considering the average in console gamesregarding effects resolution. It wont stick out badly enough to be a problem. I wouldn't say N64 becouse that is way to rough but more like old heli/flight sim/war games effects if I may. Anyway it is a form of optimisation, that or they would have much worse perfomance or cut out stuff.
 
Nebula said:
You know SSAA amount can vary. Pic is already 1031x579 so it is getting SSAA unless it is Sub-HD game. Highlighted jaggies can be due to low-res post process effect infront of box and that the native frame wasn't of that high res to begin with.

Also :LOL: at that site, spaghettifile!
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that was just the edited file by assurdum, his first pic was 1280x720. also ya i did notice those edges but i saw that the majority of the edges had better anti aliasing. that box just seems out of place maybe its moving or some other shenanigans.

also when i mentioned the N64 sprites I wasnt taking away from infamous 2 i was just trying to make it more clear when i mentioned sprites.I think speedtree uses alot of these types of sprites to render some tree leaves and shrubs.

but i do see the reasoning behind it, since sucker punch is aiming for 60hz.

LightHeaven said:
Wouldn't Sandbox on Cry Engine 3 be numbered Sandbox 3 and not 2, like in those screens?
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its just the temp filename, its like when you start a new document you get Document1, then Document2... etc
 
Any info about K&L: DD on PS3? Game tears pretty bad but AA is quite good (MSAAx2?) - it's probably no aa :). FR is solid.

Edit: No SSAO.
 
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Is it AA or just the blurring effect the PC and 360 versions seem to have that is missing on PS3?

It's definitely more jagged looking but sharper in the distance.
 
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