I Am Pissed (A poor european gamer complaint): The Thread

Well 399$ is about 305€ right now, but with shipping and you guys probably have some customs fees too. So in the end It probably won't be that much cheaper, if any.

If I order for example from Amazon or Ebay will I get a cusom fee? I am asking because I dont know

where do you live? btw, why dont you pick up a used console? i bought a 3 month old premiumpack with 8 games for 380 euro (also 2nd wired controller and wifi stick)
Greece
I dont trust used consoles. I prefer it new just in case :)

Sometimes when I hear the word "used" I cant help but suspect "their could be a problem with the console"
 
If I order for example from Amazon or Ebay will I get a cusom fee? I am asking because I dont know

I don't know what kind of laws your country has in place, but for example in Finland we have to pay value added tax 22% and few % on top of that for customs, and it's counted from the total amount including shipping fees, but like I said I have no idea what your countrys policy is on the matter, but I'm willing to take a quess that the situation is similar in Greece. If I ordered X360 from let's say Gamestop, it would cost me in the end about 435euros...
games get through customs, because many places write the prize to represent less than the real value, but consoles are shipped with couriers and they don't play around like that.

At the end of the day importing is a bit of a hassle, I have ntsc PS2 and Xbox, but my X360 is Pal. With the X360 you need a step down power converter or a Euro power supply as X360 doesn't have international power supply like the PS3 or PStwo. In Finland a power converter that is big enough for X360 costs about 60e... I don't know about the availability or prise for the original Pal power supply. Dealing with MS on possible warranty issues with imported machine might also be pain in the ass. I must say that if I were you, I'd just made the purchase from your neighbourhood store :smile:
 
Thanks for the info guys. The German prices dont differ much from hereso I think it could be a waste of time. Seems that I ll have to deal with the prices here then. Indeed it could be more of a hussle now that you mentioned it .
 
No gaming for poor gamers :devilish:

Damn capitalism

It's quite the opposite from captalism that is causing higher prices in the EU.
It's the socialists with their protective custom barriers, insane import-taxes and the general obstcles regarding import that is at play here.
Nothing to do with captalism...it's socialistic protectionism :devilish:

(I buy from Germany or the UK, as the VAT and import taxes in DK is joke)
 
No gaming for poor gamers :devilish:

Damn capitalism
Pifft, typical "poor euro" remark. Its not capitalism that is the problem, it is the lack of real capitalism. The lame lack of freemarkets and free trade between the americas and your countrys very pink shade of capitalism. If i was you i would go on strike!:LOL:
 
If I order for example from Amazon or Ebay will I get a cusom fee? I am asking because I dont know

Yes, the only way you can escape custom fee's is by getting it off ebay or something and the seller would have to put down a low or false item value (what the taxes are figured on) while also making sure to clarify its second hand and/or broken (doesnt matter if it is or isnt). The other problem is the person you're dealing with has to not only need to be willing to play that game, but he also cant be an idiot, and that may be really hard to find. The only chance you take by doing that is its linked to the insurance of the package, so if the box comes to you flat as a pancake (which wouldnt happen unless it was shipped cheaply), you're screwed. Decent international shipping options alone for most delivery companies is about $100US, without the taxes, so you're kinda screwed that way too unless you got an amazing deal on an Xbox360 or any other new console where the added shipping wouldnt hurt as much. Amazing deal of course being damn near free.
 
Oh my god!! No EBAY for me then!! Sounds too risky for my tastes.

Pifft, typical "poor euro" remark. Its not capitalism that is the problem, it is the lack of real capitalism. The lame lack of freemarkets and free trade between the americas and your countrys very pink shade of capitalism. If i was you i would go on strike!:LOL:

The "damn capitalism" was just an effort of self sarcasm. I wasnt serious about it :p

But if we are about to talk abou EU and capitalism then this is how things are:
Free market and trade isnt necessarilly only a capitaistic advandage. It can exist in a socialistic economic enviroment as well. Free trade is actually proposed by socialists and socialistic theories for better distribution of welfare. The fact that there is a need by some for protectionism actually indicates to market imperfections and distortions not necessarilly imposed by government regulations for justice. Due to self centered extremely competitive economies and nations, such problems exist due to the system itself, no matter what theories and models of a perfect economic policy may suggest.

The more socialistic an economy becomes and attention to social matters it gives in a global system of capitalism the less effective and efficient it gets due to self centered economies and nations competing each other. Real socialism is ineffective in a system such as this. In the EU there is an effort to maintain a balance between efficiency and fair social welfare.

US may show high performance, have lower prices than EU and deal with higher growth rates etc if we isolate certain economic variables and such for our observations and comparisons but viewing the economy and society beyond these certain numbers there are other problems in the US caused due to the so called liberal market.

So whether it is US or EU whatever policies we may observe they both have double edge sword effects. EU chose one side trying to slip to the middle (dealing with an amount of the problems from both policy directions) and the US choose the other end (dealing mostly with issues from the one edge).

In other words EU may deal with some disadvandages due to some regulations such as customs causing higher prices, but these problems would have taken a different form if these regulations didnt exist. EU does move to a more liberal market and regulations are getting minimized but they are doing it steadily and gradually in order to keep as minimized and stable as possible problems that may be caused from a shift especially if they move suddenly.

So if you ask me, both continents suck for different reasons. But I d still choose EU for culture and less material-centric society. :p
 
nesh, xbox360 prices are more or less the same everywhere in the EU ... a xbox isnt that more expensive i would guess in Greece?
its now 379euro most places here in belgium. And i remember actually for electronics , Greece was rather cheap compared to belgium and also Benzine prices (i know from my car trip to turkey)
 
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