Heh, Michael Moore's Call to Arms
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Legion said:
Yes me too. I think that he initially thought that Evan was a fan at first then found his questions very difficult and inflammatory to a degree. I thought that the "vast right wing conspiracy" was the most funny portion though. Bah, I got a soft spot for the guy and his little web page, normally that is not the case though.
Florin said:
That was how I felt too. I didn't spot any uncomfort. I saw the whole thing, but couldn't figure out the point of it all. It looked like someone tried to put Moore in a bad light, but utterly failed, and not realised that he did. It just didn't come trough.
Humus said:
Huh, maybe you guys missed the ranting moron going on about uniting some other type of party and taking over the democratic party. Or the idea that the white house was stolen in some way. Did you catch his politics? He is a raving feminist and Hillary Clinton is his leader.. My sakes, Moore comes off as a lunatic.
He's only a lunatic if you don't agree with what he's saying.
So, for me, he's a lunatic.
So, for me, he's a lunatic.
Sabastian said:
I have very little insight in Moore's political ideals, nor do I care particularly much about it. The only thing I know for sure it that plenty of conservatives are pissed at him.
This whole thing looked like it could have been cut out from any random talkshow. Random chatting about this and that. It all came out as just boring to me. I must have missed the lunatic part if there was any.
There have been a number of great articles written about his misrepresentations of fact and down right lying incorporated into his fictional documentaries. If you want i can provide a list of sites addressing his behavior.
There in lies the joke. Much of what Moore generates is exactly this. He takes text and interviews completely out of context in his works to besmirch the character of those he opposes.
Humus, all that is required is a bit a of knowledge about his character.
Sabastian said:
He comes off as someone with a strong opinion. Using exaggeration to get the point across is a technique that is used on all sides of the political spectrum. The random bits of out of context Moore footage that were mixed in don't alter the fact that he handled the off the cuff interview quite well. If the point of this little clip was to give him a sobering taste of his own medicine, I'd say it was a failure.
while saying the Democrats should fuse with the green party and that Bush is the commander and thief? I would say he comes off as an extremist.
Perhaps if he were being sarcastic. Moore however is very serious.
I would say Moore handed the interviewer a lot of generic answers while refusing to address the core of his questions.
Also i would say the mixed "out of context" footage does serve to show the level self contradiction Moore allows for. He tries to come off as moderate while he is nothing but that.
I am not sure why. He demostrated Moores complete lack of objectivity and honesty in reporting.
Um Ive been watching Moore's docus for a long time. It doesnt compete with the billions of corporate dollars used in advert campaigns by so-called non-profit orgs setup by corporate interests. Such as 'farmers for fairness' (monsanto's giant pig farm operations that are laying waste to some of the Carolina's countryside)...
The guy interviewing him, Evan, didnt ask a single really biting question like the stuff on Heston and the Kmart bits in Bowling I personally hated (tho the docu still rocks asides from that). Mike really took it in stride unlike so many of the people Mike tries to interview for his shows.
And talk about a droning voice. I felt Evan was alot more uncomfortable than Mike doing this... But maybe its his first time so Ill give him a break.
Im sure Evan could mount his own docus with plenty of $$$ backing from our beloved corporate establishment.
The guy interviewing him, Evan, didnt ask a single really biting question like the stuff on Heston and the Kmart bits in Bowling I personally hated (tho the docu still rocks asides from that). Mike really took it in stride unlike so many of the people Mike tries to interview for his shows.
And talk about a droning voice. I felt Evan was alot more uncomfortable than Mike doing this... But maybe its his first time so Ill give him a break.
Im sure Evan could mount his own docus with plenty of $$$ backing from our beloved corporate establishment.
pax said:
What relevance does this have to the conversation? Moore's fictional documentaries are deliberately disengenuos. He lies to the public. Unless the "corperate interests" match that he automatically takes the cake for the more corrupt. Moore is not worthy of any praise he may receive.
Shall we discuss his misrepresentations of Lockheed Martin and GM?
Actually Moore took and spliced many of Heston's public speaches together to deliberately misrepresent him. To my recolection, only one of the speaches occured the year of columbine (still months before it) which had nothing to do with columbine. Not only that but Moore doesn't show you all of the Heton interview. Check the clock on the wall during the segments
. There is over 45 minutes missing.No he didn't. He was deliberately avoiding answering his questions directly. He only replied with generic responses. A behavior he is so prone to use against other people. He forces people to take the emotional defensive, frustrates them, them splices video together to paint them in the bad light. That is entrapment. Something he should be used to.
WHy? Sounded to me he asked mike a lot of important questions to mike gave generic and deliberately innacurate responses.
Which he has every right to. Not everyone shares your corporate paranoia.
Moore is deliberately dishonest. I can't imagine anyone would support him and his work simply because of their anti-corporate agendas.
