Halo Wars

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  1. rusty

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    Awesome demo. I just wish people would give it a chance. The controls really are what they hyped them up to be.
     
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    I'll give it a shot this weekend when I get around to activating my live membership. To be frank, I am more interested in seeing the story play out along with their seemingly kick-ass CG cut-scenes and music. :p But if I cannot get used to the controls, I will wait for a price drop...
     
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    I plan to play it tonight.
     
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    Halo Wars demo is only available to Gold members right? If so I'll have to wait til the game gets released. I'm a sad panda now.

    The controls sounded quite good from the walkthrough they did in one of the video demos. Although it seems to use the original Battle of Middle Earth (and a few other games prior to that) base building mechanics. Main hub with limited build slots off of it.

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    One week for silver as well.
     
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    Oooh, is the silver available now or do you mean one week after gold members get it?

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    It was understood to me that silver gets it only for one week after the demo releases. Hmmm...Could be wrong.
     
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    Okay, I have played through the two campaign missions and played as each side in the skirmish mode so I figured I would go ahead and post my impressions.

    First I should start off by saying that I am in no way an RTS fanatic or expert, although I have played to some varying degree every C&C game, Star Craft, War Craft 2 and 3, Conquest Frontier Wars, the various AoE's, etc, etc. With that caveat out of the way, I think I will stay away from making any comments or criticism on the level of depth or complexity, or lack their of contained within Halo Wars. I will venture as far as saying that anyone who is looking for a game that is easy to get into, and offers an immediate focus on action should take a look into Halo Wars by trying out the demo. I did and I have come away thoroughly impressed both from a gameplay and presentation standpoint.

    Obviously the most important question facing an RTS when playing it on a gamepad is how well does it control. Thankfully Ensemble had the foresight to avoid the numerous pitfalls other developers face when porting PC developed RTS over to the Xbox 360. Units can be easily and quickly selected with a press of the A button, or conversely you can select all of the units on screen, or your entire army by using the bumpers. When you have a large group selected their portraits are displayed along the bottom left half of the screen. These large groups can be micromanaged with the left and right triggers, allowing you to scroll through their portraits and select an individual unit type more apt for the job at hand. The best aspect of the game are the unit super powers, which like the name implies gives the unit a temporary boost in power or an additional ability. The super power is great because it is mapped to the Y button making it easy to use which is important considering many of the abilities are necessary to win the game. Base building mechanics and resource gathering are also streamlined. The player starts off with a single hub, and a set number of build spots. What they choose to build and when will determine the eventual focus of their army, as you can either choose to tech-up or rush with a large number of weaker units. The number of build spots can be upgraded through the main hub, but base expansion is still necessary to expand resource gathering when wishing to tech-up. Overall, I found the easy and intuitive controls worked hand in hand with the streamlined gameplay to deliver an enjoyable experience.

    The presentation in Halo Wars is superb, every aspect of the game feels distinctly Halo, and you can tell that Ensemble took the time to make sure everything fit within the established Halo-verse. Developer Ensemble was smart to copy the general layout of Halo 2/Halo 3's menus as they go a long way to lending an immediate sense of familiarity to the game. Beyond their general layout, the games menu's are accompanied by a nice main theme that also carries a distinct Halo-ish vibe. The level of fan service and excellent production values also transfers over to games CG sequences, which brief as they are in the demo, could arguably be the best visual interpretation of the Halo-verse yet. As with all the other aspects of the presentation, the in-game visuals are also superb, - though it is worth noting that the lighting has taken a hit since the initial trailer in which dynamic lighting was shown off - every aspect from Bungie's Halo games has been captured and transferred into RTS format. One great example would be the Warthog's, which not only sway, spin and jump through the air like their FPS counterparts, but also have a special ability that allows you to ram enemies, sending your foes flailing through the air rag doll and all. The HUD that accompanies the in-game action is very unobtrusive, and while I feel it is accurate to the source material and minimalistic in nature it also seems slightly simplistic from an eye-candy standpoint. In the short time I have spent with Halo Wars it has become apparent that its strongest aspect is the presentation in which it becomes immediately apparent that Ensemble went through great pains to stay true to the established Halo universe.

    Overall, I enjoyed the Halo Wars demo and I recommend anyone skeptical of the game to give it a try.
     
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    Just create a new Xbox Live profile on your 360, and you get a free 1 month gold trial. You can do this up to 5 times.
     
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    Heh, I may have to try that trick tonight. :)

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    I finally got round to playing it....

    I'm not a RTS fanatic either, and I found it quite enjoyable!

    The cutscenes are great, and it all flows quite well. It's quick and easy to get started with minimal focus on resource gathering, and everything is simple to control and seems fairly intuitive.

    It did get a little jumpy at one point, but i did have 10 more units than the unit cap (I maxed out the units, then had reinforcements dropped off and found some trapped units... but it wasn't jumpy for long so not sure what that was about.

    It's definitely a good looking game but i felt like I couldn't zoom in as far as I'd like - I assume it'd start to look less impressive if i could lol. The effects are nice though and overall it's impressive.

    This might be the first RTS I've picked up since I got Dawn of War for the pc ages ago!
     
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    It's great. In terms of control, it's the same basic idea as the EA Xbox 360 RTSes, but refined much further.

    In terms of art, it's brilliantly executed, and very true to the spirit of Halo - a coworker who didn't know about the project entered the room, glanced at the 32" TV from maybe 6-7 meters distance, and asked "is that an RTS set in the Halo universe?".

    Also, the best terrain rendering system I've ever seen. There's an upcoming GDC lecture about it, can't wait to hear more.
     
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    Confidence rising... :)


    How do you mean? I haven't gotten the demo yet btw. :oops:
     
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    I played it last night.

    I really enjoyed it, but I thought that it was a little on the easy side.

    Too bad I couldn't get to build or play a little more of the advanced stuff.
    I'll probably buy it when it comes out.
     
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    I'm assuming the levels from the demo are from early parts of the game where the player is still expected to be getting the hang of the game. So I'll cut it some slack there until I get the real game.

    Control scheme is VERY nice and intuitive for a console RTS. And being able to paint your units to select them is ingenious. I kinda hope that makes it to some PC RTS games.

    Also using unit special abilities. This is by far the best implementation of any RTS I've played IMO. I'm not sure even a PC could pull it off as well. Although I suppose if they mapped special abilities to mouse two in someway while tabbing through unit groups. But it would still seem more cumbersome than how Halo Wars is doing it.

    Graphics I thought were great for keeping it faithful to the Halo-verse. Some really nice touches here and there. I'll have to take a look again but the units seem to have more eye candy detail and stuff than appears at first glance.

    Gameplay so far reminds me of Battle of Middle Earth quite a bit though. Not necessarily a bad thing. Will see how it goes in the full game.

    The demo just reinforced my conviction to get this the day it comes out. :)

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    Hmmm, maybe it's just me, but is there a way to ungarrison your units? Wouldn't be a big deal except that they still count towards your unit cap and I can't figure out how to get them out. :p

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    Don't know.

    BTW, I'm loving the music in the demo. Let it play when you first boot it up without selecting anything.

    I'm going to try some skirmish matches later. I hear that you can fight or play against Scarabs in it.
     
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    I'm a total RTS noob, so can someone explain the general concepts to follow while playing one? What's all this "resource management" and "tech tree" stuff.
     
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