Halo: Reach

Well there shouldn't even be any hint or discussion of the game via piracy in the first place. It wouldn't fly in the PC forums, and I thought some of you here would follow to the same conclusion.
 
(((interference))) said:
The VGA trailer for one, compare the material shaders on the Spartan armor in the VGA trailer to the leaked playthroughs and you can see that they have been pared back somewhat and don't look as shiny and metallic as they did before.
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AlStrong already commented on this exact thing in the Halo Reach tech thread:

AlStrong said:
Specularity is a material property, so yeah, an artistic adjustment. Plus there is the matter of how strong the light is...
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So no, it hasn't been downgraded. Even the missing shadow beneath the warthog has been debated (though not on this forum) seeing as how the position of the lighting can have an effect on shadows. Neogaf is blocked at work where I am, but Bungie did come to the defense of the latest build to people claiming it's been downgraded from the VGA trailer.

There are some differences, that's for sure, but other than the lack of AA, and some lighting differences, I think it's pretty spot on.

(((interference))) said:
Come to think of it, they did the same thing to the 'Chief's armor in Halo 3, At the E3 2006 trailer it had an amazing tan, hammered finish only to be replaced with totally drab olive green armor.
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Again this was explained to be an artistic change, not a downgrade. Bungie is usually rather open and honest concerning the development of their games, you should maybe read on said develoments. ;)
 
If anything, the VGA trailer's contents have been upgraded, several of the Spartans have completely new head models... ;)
 
At least going by the same warthog disembarkment scene, you could actually see the textures in the new rendition. The older version had a much brighter sky and spotlight, but then the rest of the scene was very dark. Reminded me of TVs at a store vs something more properly calibrated.
 
(((interference))) said:
Plus from Halo 1 we've known that Masterchief is the last Spartan.
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No, he is not. Some of the books deal with what other Spartans do and in the manual pages of the games there are also communications from/with other Spartans. I don't remember exactly which.

Just use spoiler tags regardless of what you think is widely known or not and more people will like you.
 
Laa-Yosh said:
If anything, the VGA trailer's contents have been upgraded, several of the Spartans have completely new head models... ;)
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AlStrong said:
At least going by the same warthog disembarkment scene, you could actually see the textures in the new rendition. The older version had a much brighter sky and spotlight, but then the rest of the scene was very dark. Reminded me of TVs at a store vs something more properly calibrated.
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This.

Awesome live action trailer btw.
 
dragonelite said:
Edit:Could contain potential spoilers dont hope anyone is mad for forgetting to mention this.

new live action trailer..
Where my movie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IMTK7yuoq0&fmt=22&annotation_id=annotation_297148&feature=iv
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Every time one of these are produced I wonder the same thing. I firmly believe a Halo movie would appeal to more than just the Halo fans and even if that weren't the case, the halo fans alone would ensure the movie's success.

Great trailer BTW
 
kagemaru said:
Every time one of these are produced I wonder the same thing. I firmly believe a Halo movie would appeal to more than just the Halo fans and even if that weren't the case, the halo fans alone would ensure the movie's success.

Great trailer BTW
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The movie world is just fucked up in the head.
They can finance a Battleship(The boardgame) movie for 200 million dollar.
But from i heard microsoft wanted a minimal budget spend of 150 million dollar and some control of the ip.
So it doesn't get misused and butchered.
 
dragonelite said:
The movie world is just fucked up in the head.
They can finance a Battleship(The boardgame) movie for 200 million dollar.
But from i heard microsoft wanted a minimal budget spend of 150 million dollar and some control of the ip.
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That's probably the biggest reason - all the merchandising money & sequel rights would belong to MS. Though I don't understand why MS won't finance the movie, especially they could time it to coincide with the next big Halo game title - movies are more mainstream than games, the game would get a massive kick in public awareness (maybe everybody knows about Halo in the US, but not somuch outside).

I think Halos, Elites, Grunts etc. are unique (and appealing) enough to make them iconic outside of the world of video games.
 
kagemaru said:
Again this was explained to be an artistic change, not a downgrade. Bungie is usually rather open and honest concerning the development of their games, you should maybe read on said develoments. ;)
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Yes, they said that, but Bungie also said that with H3 we shouldn't be complaining about the resolution as they were using extra framebuffers!

It might be an artistic change, but that doesn't stop it from being a lot less expensive to render. The final H3 armor looked undeniably worse than that shown in the E3 2006 trailer.

And Is there a link to the GAF discussion on supposed cutbacks from the VGA trailer?
 
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warb said:
I wouldn't say the armour itself looked undeniably worse from the 2006 e3 trailer to finished Halo 3 cinematics.

Another thing that points to it being an art decision is that the same concrete effect armour was present in alpha screens and footage, and just looked wrong.

A couple of examples:
http://www.bungie.net/images/games/halo3/screenshots/H3_MPAlpha_SnowboundCarnage.jpg
http://www.bungie.net/images/News/InlineImages2007/BetaBeyond/Halo3_Snowbound_3rd-person-04.jpg
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That same detail texture is still present in the final game, you just have to be very close for it to be visible, as it disappears after a certain distance.

Edit: Nevermind, it was definitely toned down in the final release. Still, I like the look of the alpha models better.
 
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warb said:
I wouldn't say the armour itself looked undeniably worse from the 2006 e3 trailer to finished Halo 3 cinematics.

Another thing that points to it being an art decision is that the same concrete effect armour was present in alpha screens and footage, and just looked wrong.

A couple of examples:
http://www.bungie.net/images/games/halo3/screenshots/H3_MPAlpha_SnowboundCarnage.jpg
http://www.bungie.net/images/News/InlineImages2007/BetaBeyond/Halo3_Snowbound_3rd-person-04.jpg
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I don't get it? those pics you linked show the final armor (or something indistinguishable from it)
 
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