GTA creator criticising Sony online plan

[PSman]

http://gaming.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=6653

In an inteview with Edge Magazine, Jones said, “I seriously question Sony’s policy of leaving it down to publishers to come up with their own standards for each [online] game. I completely disagree with it. I’m not going to put my credit card details with five different companies for some bits of downloadable content. Sony is a huge force, and definitely has been with the PS2 – but now I see it being, at worst, a 50/50 race, but as time goes on I lean more and more towards Microsoft."


What's your opinion on this?

 

[speng]

Umm, most content is free.

Second, it's moot. We do it everytime we shop online. Best Buy, Overstock, Amazon, Barnes and Noble have my CC info.

Credit card fraud is covered by CC companies so no worries.

If he's worried abou that he should get a different credit card

When I sign up for a MMOG, I still need to give me CC info to the 2 or 3 I may play in a year. Unless it's SoE who has packages.

Krelic.

 

[expletive]

http://gaming.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=6653

In an inteview with Edge Magazine, Jones said, “I seriously question Sony’s policy of leaving it down to publishers to come up with their own standards for each [online] game. I completely disagree with it. I’m not going to put my credit card details with five different companies for some bits of downloadable content. Sony is a huge force, and definitely has been with the PS2 – but now I see it being, at worst, a 50/50 race, but as time goes on I lean more and more towards Microsoft."


What's your opinion on this?

I never thought of it from this angle before but if i have to enter all of my personal and billing information for every game i wanted to play online, yeah thats a huge pain in the a**. Interesting that he didnt count the fact that the Sony model has free online play as a relevant factor?

 

[RobertR1]

The loophole has been "free online" but we can't control if the dev's want to make you pay......

Now would you rather pay one fee to play all your games online or pay each dev seperately for their games?

It'll be interesting to see how it all turns out.

 

[Bad_Boy]

I was under the impression you would only need one account for all games. The whole unified login name, and 50 dollar gift card for DLC @ E3 seemed to suggest that. But I dunno I could be wrong. I wasnt really planning on paying for game extras anyway, microtransactions ftl. But as long as I can get my games online, free demos, and patches for free I'm ok.

 

[scooby_dooby]

He's a 2nd party developer, take it with a grain of salt.

Though I wil give my prediction that you will not have free unlimited gaming for PS3, and that people are in for a dissapointment if they think they;'re getting XBLive like services for free. Maybe Sony will surprise me, but I smell something fishy...

 

[StefanS]

Umm, most content is free.

Second, it's moot. We do it everytime we shop online. Best Buy, Overstock, Amazon, Barnes and Noble have my CC info.

Credit card fraud is covered by CC companies so no worries.

If he's worried abou that he should get a different credit card

When I sign up for a MMOG, I still need to give me CC info to the 2 or 3 I may play in a year. Unless it's SoE who has packages.

I think it's more of a convenience factor. Having one central billing system is more comfortable for the consumer. It's not that having to type CC information multiple times will drive costumers away from the games / content, but making it easier probably helps with impulse buying. Lowering the inhibition threshold makes quick purchase without much reasoning possible.

 

[Bad_Boy]

He's a 2nd party developer, take it with a grain of salt.

2nd party for Microsoft right? Hes working on crackdown. No wonder hes downing on Sony lol. I wouldnt expect him to praise them.

 

[patsu]

http://gaming.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=6653

In an inteview with Edge Magazine, Jones said, “I seriously question Sony’s policy of leaving it down to publishers to come up with their own standards for each [online] game. I completely disagree with it. I’m not going to put my credit card details with five different companies for some bits of downloadable content. Sony is a huge force, and definitely has been with the PS2 – but now I see it being, at worst, a 50/50 race, but as time goes on I lean more and more towards Microsoft."


What's your opinion on this?

It is a valid point from usability and user acceptance angle. But there are more than 1 solutions to it (e.g., capturing the CC details on the client side is one of them), and still leave the network platform open.

At the rate Sony is executing, MS does have a free run at some of the things Sony wanted to do, but has not delivered yet. So it's a 50/50 race.

But saying it openly like that helps to draw more attention to his new game, especially for Xbox supporters.

 

[Deepak]

The term GTA creator is a bit misleading in relation to this particular news report, Ex-GTA creator would have been apt.:smile:

 

[blakjedi]

Sony could implement a SOny Live "wallet" saved and protected on your PS3 that get uploaded to the dev once you authorize payment. Simple solution really... hopefully it will be a uniform interface... but yeah that loophole where you pay for EA (which you will) versus Ubi versus THQ will bite many people... Free refers to access probably and not play...

 

[Bobbler]

I thought it was already stated that the billing stuff would be unified... you just select what you want to buy and the card on file would be billed? The login stuff is all said to be unified, so why wouldn't billing? It's a silly assumption to think it would be seperate for everything.

Who cares what Jones says? It'd be like the boss of Insomniac saying they don't like what MS is doing. It's irrelevant.

And the title is a tad bit misleading... The credit of GTA creator is a bit overplayed.

 

[MrFloopy]

The term GTA creator is a bit misleading in relation to this particular news report, Ex-GTA creator would have been apt.

Sorry for commenting on this (And I'm realise it was in jest) but this use of ex gets up my nose a bit. If he created (or helped create) GTA then he can never be an ex-creator. It's the same as when people use the phrase ex-world champion. Once you are a world champion you will always be a world champion. You may not be the current one but you are still a world champion.

You don't hear about an ex-published author do you.

[/rant]

Sorry, bout that. I feel better now.

 

[Deepak]

But saying GTA creator gives the impression that he still works for Rockstar, and the comments he made would have more weightage if it were from an independent 3rd party dev than a MS 2nd party dev.

 

[cthellis42]

Sony could implement a SOny Live "wallet" saved and protected on your PS3 that get uploaded to the dev once you authorize payment. Simple solution really... hopefully it will be a uniform interface... but yeah that loophole where you pay for EA (which you will) versus Ubi versus THQ will bite many people... Free refers to access probably and not play...

Password-protected, of course, and heavily encrypted.

There is no reason one would have to manually enter everything ALL the time...

Different systems has its' good and bad points, but there's no reason to not have the much of the process universal and easy.

 

[Skrying]

Build a common interface for all online transactions to take place. So all bill paying is done through the same system, with the same information, including passwords and account names.

Such a system should be very easy to have and enforce. I dont see any developer having issues with such a system, it'd make things easier for its customer.

 

[Crayon]

Can anyone explain why some people think PS3 users will be charged to play online? It sounds absurd to me and I don't see any evidence pointing to charges for playing peer to peer games. I understand that some individuals out there are hoping Sony charges for that, but I want to know if there is a legit argument.

 

[patsu]

You will still need to pay for premium content even though online gaming may be free. So some sort of digital wallet or pre-paid card is needed.

 

[Crayon]

I understand that they'll attempt to nickel and dime for downlodable micro-content and all sorts of junk.

But why would they charge to play the game you payed full price for on the Playstation you payed full price for on the connection you paid full price for?

I know Microsoft does it but that's Microsoft.

 

[Acert93]

But saying GTA creator gives the impression that he still works for Rockstar, and the comments he made would have more weightage if it were from an independent 3rd party dev than a MS 2nd party dev.

I think creator suffices in relation to his role in the industry; personally I see a difference between creator/inventor and maker/developer. e.g. Miyamoto is the creator of Zelda, Mario, and Metroid even if he doesn't make every single game in those franchises.

Good catch by Scoob though--indeed, a near worthless quote