GPU Ray Tracing Performance Comparisons [2021-2022]
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DavidGraham
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Not really the first time, it happened in path traced games, @4K the 3070 is ~30% faster than 2080Ti in Minecraft, and 25% faster in Quake 2 RTX.
https://www.comptoir-hardware.com/a...-test-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-ti.html?start=5
DegustatoR
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If you're looking at GOTG results then there's something weird with how the game's fps limiter works in the benchmark. It seems to limit most of the benchmark to 144 fps max while some parts of it is unlimited.
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RT capable GPUs are rapidly increasing in numbers, their numbers eclipse the RT capable consoles by a decent margin.
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Microsoft only sold 4 million XSX? That seems low.
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There's quite a bit to take apart from that tweet.
Not only is he assuming that Steam Hardware Survey presents an accurate and statistically relevant sample of Valve's claimed 120 million total accounts (which is by itself quite the mouthful, as their IHV proportions miss AMD's sales percentages by an order of magnitude), that list also mixes RTX2000 laptop models into the same name. It seems Steam only started to tell laptop from desktop version with Ampere, so the RTX2060 and 2070 have laptop models in their midst, both with performance below the RTX2060.
There's more to it, but honestly it's not even a discussion worth having. What is even the point? To try to convince developers to make games just for Nvidia graphics cards?
The devs know the discrete sales numbers by platform. This is irrelevant.
Absolutely. By end of the generation if PS5 does more than PS4 and series consoles do more than XBO gen, that’s a lot of RT devices!! The Baseline for RT performance will be defined by this generation.
All consoles combined maybe. Still, the steam survey only collects what Steam users have. It be an idea to look at the total RT capable hardware for pc sold.
Over the seven year lifespan the ratio more-capable-than the consoles RT performance on pc should only increase. That is if the consoles would outnumber the total RT capable gpus on the pc space at the end.
Luckily thats not what were seeing (2060S baseline). In most games a 2080ti or better does provide much better relative performance in ray tracing as far i have seen.
For you, but for developers knowing these numbers might be quite intresting. 24 million 2060/S or better on the PC side they know theres already a quarter of what the PS4 did sell in total over seven years (and probably about what the PS5 will sell). Thats quite impressive.
The addressable market is relevant but there are other motivating factors. We're seeing increased indie adoption of RT presumably because it's just easier to implement than some of the advanced hacks. Also there is developer interest / excitement around the tech itself. Given performance is the only obstacle it will be interesting to see what the best developers can do with current gen hardware. There will be an inflection point (hopefully soon) where rasterization hacks are both uglier and more expensive than doing it the "right" way.
Thats not counting laptops. I looked myself a month or so ago, i dont remember EXACTLY, but i counted the discrete gpu's with RTX only that steam shows, so only Turing and Ampere, and its around 21% of steam. Thats tens of millions of people. The ones that are buying the big games as they come out. People with 1050 and 1060's are not the playerbase that will be buying the latest, biggest games.
Ales is also taking that outdated and incorrect figure from 2020. That figure is the MONTHLY active users, from 2020. Its not the entire userbase, nor is it an accurate figure right now, at the dawn of 2022. You're not gonna have the same active people every month, and you're not stagnating from 2020 till the start of 2022. RTX owners are 21% of hundreds of millions.
The relevancy is that there are a lot of people with capable hardware. And another point is how non existent amd is in the space
DavidGraham
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Battlefield 2142 will release with RT AO as well as as DLSS.
The adoption of RT is accelerating afterall.
The adoption of RT is accelerating afterall.
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Yeah, Unreal Engine made it easy to enable RT reflections, shadows and AO. More than a dozen indie titles added RT this way. RT GI is a different matter however, and it requires careful optimizations and scene setup, so it's not used as much.
Indeed, Steam survey afterall is just a fraction of the total market, pirates who never had to buy a game are not included for example.
The Steam numbers for AMD hardware are consistent with their market share numbers.
In theory aren't they close to this? Lumen is basically compute based GI; if it's possible they only need to deploy hardware acceleration onto lumen.
Glad it's paired with Reflex. Nice to not have to worry about input lag spikes in these kinds of games when the gpu hits 100%.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/battlefield-2042-dlss-ray-tracing-reflex-pc-tech-trailer/
Also judging from the comparison images on the blog, the ray traced AO looks pretty nice. Shadows look much more natural.
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Not really from what I saw in benchmarks and in my own experience. There may certainly be cases where there will be a minor impact.
Not that I've seen.