Go on the record and predict the XB-360 specs

[pc999]

I hope soo

 

[V3]

Main RAM.
UMA configuration.
GDDR2 or 3 at 1Ghz.
128 bits.

Do you mean 1ghz effective (500mhz clock ) or do you mean 1ghz ram , 2ghz effective ? Because not for nothing but don't you think it would be cheaper to increase the bus width instead of ram that most likely wont be in production next sept ?

I am pretty sure its cheaper to use smaller bus width. MS can bullies RAM manufacturer around. It just that, PC graphic cards are the ones that likely going to pay for it, if they can't get the supply up :?

But what is the timetable for 700 MHz GDDR3 like ?

 

[Megadrive1988]

another prediction: EVERYTHING is going to be on 90 nm

the CPUs and GPUs for Xenon, Revolution and Playstation3.

 

[Carl B]

another prediction: EVERYTHING is going to be on 90 nm

the CPUs and GPUs for Xenon, Revolution and Playstation3.

I agree with that. Sony I don't think is going to make it in time - still, they should transition over pretty swiftly post console launch.

 

[quest55720]

My guesses.

CPU Tri Core IBM 3.0 Ghz.
GPU 650 Mhz ATI custom chip with shader model 3++
Ram 512 megs of 256 bit 600 Mhz ram
Built in WIFI and ethernet.
Standard DVD Rom.

 

[Megadrive1988]

Ram 512 megs of 256 bit 600 Mhz ram

now THAT would be nice, as I've said all along, since 2003.

kick that main memory bandwidth into the 50 to 65 GB/sec range.

 

[jvd]

am pretty sure its cheaper to use smaller bus width. MS can bullies RAM manufacturer around. It just that, PC graphic cards are the ones that likely going to pay for it, if they can't get the supply up

only problem is 1ghz ram wont be avalible . I think 800 is what is slated for august . But even 800mhz will be expensive and in short supply

I'm not sure on this but i believe they can go with a 500mhz gdr 256bit bus and later on replace it with 1ghz gdr and 128 bit bus giving the same badnwidth and it may be chaper at tha point .

Correct me if i'm wrong though

 

[V3]

am pretty sure its cheaper to use smaller bus width. MS can bullies RAM manufacturer around. It just that, PC graphic cards are the ones that likely going to pay for it, if they can't get the supply up

only problem is 1ghz ram wont be avalible . I think 800 is what is slated for august . But even 800mhz will be expensive and in short supply

I'm not sure on this but i believe they can go with a 500mhz gdr 256bit bus and later on replace it with 1ghz gdr and 128 bit bus giving the same badnwidth and it may be chaper at tha point .

Correct me if i'm wrong though

So 1.4 GHz effective GDDR3 wont be available by the time 360 launches ?

 

[BriefcasemanX]

DECREASE IN CPU CLOCKSPEED + INCLUSION OF PPU

 

[jvd]

So 1.4 GHz effective GDDR3 wont be available by the time 360 launches ?

This is the problem .

1.4ghz effective is only 700mhz ram. I clearly asked if it was effective or actual mhz . I said if it was actual mhz that it wouldn't be avalible at the time as it would be 1ghz gdr ram or 2ghz effective .

Please back track and read my posts

 

[_phil_]

DECREASE IN CPU CLOCKSPEED + INCLUSION OF PPU

They seemed to have remove one core to put the extra ram ,so people should forget about PPU ,IMO.

 

[EndR]

DECREASE IN CPU CLOCKSPEED + INCLUSION OF PPU

They seemed to have remove one core to put the extra ram ,so people should forget about PPU ,IMO.

ehh..
question: From where does a dual core "rumour"/comment come from?
If it is a rumour, why does it have more "validity" than a tri-core setup (which is also rumored).....

from where does dual-core setup come from? It seems mighty strange that MS would have taken out one core just to put in more RAM.. dosen´t quite make sense..

 

[_phil_]

question: From where does a dual core "rumour"/comment come from?
quote]

From inside.Can't say much more.Nor i can say it's a definitive spec.

 

[London Geezer]

question: From where does a dual core "rumour"/comment come from?
quote]

From inside.Can't say much more.Nor i can say it's a definitive spec.

The call is coming from inside the house...

So, 2 cores, more Ram? Sounds more and more PC-y to me. It would be interesting to have architectures that differ a lot from PCs, just for the sake of approaching the problem from another perspective. But i guess the programmers will have enough headaches with Cell, so that's ok.

 

[Love_In_Rio]

two cores without ppu ? no way. What then ? definitively dreamcast 2 ? Forget me buying another 12 months life console.

 

[bbot]

from

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=466676#466676


quote:

XENON:

- 2 core G5 at 3 GHZ with 2 MB cache
- 8 vectorprocessor in another chip at 3GHZ
- ati gpu with 32 unified shader, 500 MHZ
_________________
Version of Majic12

 

[London Geezer]

two cores without ppu ? no way. What then ? definitively dreamcast 2 ? Forget me buying another 12 months life console.

Not gonna happen. Xbox2 could have an AMD64 and still last longer than 12 months, if only because MS have money to spend to support it.
Besides, DC didn't last 12 months.

 

[_phil_]

This is thirdparty info.SPecs are changing on almost a weekly basis(slight exageration) .Maybe someone closer to MS 360 dev knows better and could enlight us.

 

[bbot]

Is version close or way off or spot on?

 

[Acert93]

This is thirdparty info.SPecs are changing on almost a weekly basis(slight exageration) .Maybe someone closer to MS 360 dev knows better and could enlight us.

They are, at 9:30 EST tonight

Just as an aside, all the leaks indicated tricore, yet the alpha dev kits were dual CPU G5s. That has been the source of this rumor before... it could very well end up being dual core, but this could be a rumor related to the dev kits.

If cost was the reason for the cut, it makes you wonder how much money will they really save to go to dual core from a tricore. If it is a money saving move you would need to save a good chunk to offset 256MB of fast memory, which I doubt cutting out a core (what, 20-25% of the die area? A bump in yields) would itself offsete much of a 2x increase in memory. I could be wrong though.