General Next Generation Rumors and Discussions [Post GDC 2020]

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  1. ultragpu

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    MS can sorta get away with it this time because their specs sheet is more straight to the point with bigger numbers thus people would feel more confident in them for delivering the experience they wanted. However since Sony's overall numbers are a bit lower albeit not by a big margin, not to mention those mystical capabilities of the much emphasized SSD, it would serve them more justice to actually SHOW than talk. This is why a SSD demo using Horizon II assets would go a long long way to raise the hype and give people better understanding of what's under the hood. But that's just me.
     
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    The Console arrives in 8 Months and they have nothing to show, the Hardware must already ready at the final status because there is not enough Time anymore to change Things ,Chips etc drastically. But last Year we heard from a Journalist that he have seen a Techdemo or a Game in a early Development with lots of going on onto the Screen etc. but running only at 20-30 Frames/s on Ps5 Devkit , hard to believe that the final Game run flawless a 60fps.
     
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    They have no excuse not to with the hardware that's in them compared to the current gen. No-one can say (yet) that consoles are holding back the PC atleast.

    I wouldn't worry about that if i where you, with the hardware that we get i doubt you will be dissapointed either way. Some games might be 30fps if they go full balls to the wall graphics, some might be 60fps, have somewhat less good gfx but still look better then anything today.
    On that, Doom Ethernal is one of, if not the best looking games out there right now, see the DF video on it. It runs at 60fps even on the base consoles.
    If anything, it's not the hardwares fault if a game isnt performing well on those machines we get.
     
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    My post was a response to another post for fun, you maybe missed that. You think that they have nothing to show 8 months before release?. Of course they have. They have most likely been working on games for it for over a year already.
     
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    Exactly @ultragpu. They should have either canceled this GDC fake talk or showed games and features.

    And I found Cerny talk very odd indeed. First he basically repeated the PS4 talk he had years ago, I mean, every developers know that story. Some kind of history lesson of his own PS4 presentation he had 7 years ago ? Weird. Then pre-emptive damage control with slides about a fast and narrow design better than a wide and slow design.

    A good part of his presentation he was talking about his own past achievements or justifying his own present decisions. Instead of that he should have showed games, features and controller. In February 2013 they displayed all the important PS4 features, controller, cool demos and games. What were they thinking ? Good luck now to erase all that negative first impression.
     
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    Regarding PS4 I did not react to that since PS4 is part of "the road to PS5", but certainly demos and games would be nice.
     
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    Just show a game or two that atleast matches or surpasses hellblade 2 demo/cinematic, which shouldnt be a problem for studios like GG or insomniac etc. Then keep announcing new features that have been added to the OS (pause, resume), and avoid talking about hardware to the general public. Then around E3 show some enhanced PS4 games, like HZD and Death Stranding, these are going pc anyway where they are enhanced, show them on PS5 with HDR, higher framerates and whatever. Also during the summer, show parts of launch games, with ingame gameplay, and boast about features like RT reflections and whatnot, fast loading....

    Atleast, thats what i would do if i where Sony. Maybe they are not ready yet, i dont remember how things went in early 2013.
     
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    I'm not sure but didn't digital foundry or someone leak that Sony was ahead with there dev tools and what not?

    Odd then that guy from Ready at Dawn rates the PS5 as one of the biggest revolutions in 20 years.
     
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    Lol, not another in-engine cutscene. MS showed gameplay: minecraft and Gears 5 running on XSX. Those did look very different than a cutscene, didn't they ?
     
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    But will Cerny pull a 8GB GDDR5 moment this time by getting 16Gbps GDDR6 for the final hardware?
    One can only daydream.
     
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    Well, if the ssd speed + kraken compression pans out on something like super awesome horizon zero dawn sequel then it just might be that kind of moment. or MLB with insane zoom ins to player characters thanks to being able to fill ram on demand instead of caching for next 30seconds. Or gran turismo next with insane car models and textures thanks to very fast streaming and predictable nature of car games...
     
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    They haven't shown anything running on either console. Big difference MS has their take home dev it's to show while Sony has shown zilch.
     
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    Yes agree, but just to show what to expect, i guess none studio is ready yet to show ingame gameplay. Minecraft and Gears 5 are BC games, which i think is a very good thing to show for a start. Offcourse we want real ingame gameplay, both MS and Sony havent done that yet, or not shown atleast :p

    You never know, anything can happen. Maybe suprise us with more powerfull gpu and cpu clocks. I know dreaming but :p

    @manux yes agree the SSD's are much talked about but neither has shown anything yet. Huge openworlds with no fog for draw distance with massive assets could be a show.
     
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    It's too early and wrong time to show games. It would be bad judgement/tone deaf to ignore coronavirus and try to hype games. Another thing is mass market who buys consoles will forget what is shown now come fall. Better to keep working on games and start the real hype closer to release when games also are closer to being finalized. Preferably start proper hyping same time as preorders open. i.e. here is your launch lineup, get if for 499$ and btw. pre-order today! Too early for that today.
     
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    I imagine it'll take time for games to transition from being based around 20 MB/s to over 2400 MB/s, let alone to over 9000 MB/s. That first step is the large one. When they do, oh my, what an improvement.
     
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    With MS having final silicon, final specs, and final case design, I imagine that they'll be starting mass production soon if they haven't already started. Also, this would assume Covid-19 isn't holding things up, which it might be.

    Dev tools and dev kits don't require final silicon or final consumer case design. It's possible to be first with dev tools and dev kits but still last with getting back final silicon.

    Eh? MS have shown stock BC (State of Decay) and enhanced BC (Gears 5 and an old Xbox game with ML HDR) running on XBSX hardware. What they haven't shown yet is next gen games running on XBSX. I imagine they are saving those for around when E3 would normally happen.

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    That shouldn't effect the development side.

    I'm sure the final design is done though otherwise Cerney wouldn't of teased the tear down.
     
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    I'm saving judgment on that one until we actually have the date of the tear down.
     
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    Their less likely to have anything next gen to show compared to Sony.
    They'll only have enhanced current gen games.
     
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