GamePro gets 360 Debug kit (power supply?)

jvd said:
which one , where was it said ? How do we know if he has accurate information ?

That is the question . all i see are pics from a trade show as proof

The guy's name is Element. And he said

The one photoed at Digital Life Expo is the final one.

Mefisutoferesu has a link to the forum page a few post up.
 
Powderkeg said:
The pic I posted earlier was not from a trade show, and to the best of my knowledge, they are not debug kits.

what is it from ? and no they dont' have to be debug kits , they can just be floor models for shows .

As i've said has this been confirmed by any offical sources as the pack in power brick. People are acting like this has been confirmed by microsoft .
 
mckmas8808 said:
The guy's name is Element. And he said



Mefisutoferesu has a link to the forum page a few post up.

Right and who is element ? Do we know if he is an actually ms employee or a developer and if he is correct on it being final .

Or can anyone on a website claim to be a developer and say something and we take it as fact ?
 
jvd said:
what is it from ? and no they dont' have to be debug kits , they can just be floor models for shows .

It was a small, invitation only MS press event in San Francisco. It was small enough that the people who were invited were given memory cards to use when they played the games, and were allowed to keep those memory cards when it was over to use on their home systems when the 360 launches.

As i've said has this been confirmed by any offical sources as the pack in power brick. People are acting like this has been confirmed by microsoft .

I think the odds of a major redesign for the final system is remote at best. You would be much better off to simply assume these are final.
 
jvd said:
Right and who is element ? Do we know if he is an actually ms employee or a developer and if he is correct on it being final .

Or can anyone on a website claim to be a developer and say something and we take it as fact ?

Just like DeanoC on this forum, everybody knows for a fact that element is a MS developer and knows what he is talking about.
 
jvd said:
As i've said has this been confirmed by any offical sources as the pack in power brick. People are acting like this has been confirmed by microsoft .
How many times do you need this confirmed? Dude, it HAS been confirmed already, deal with it. :p There is a video showing these things at the assembly plant going into boxes, so yes it is the final kit.

It isn't beautiful for sure, I'd preferred a bigger console with a built-in PSU, but hey, you can't get everything...
 
Powderkeg said:
Hey, it's the ghost trap from Ghost Busters!!!

trap.jpg

That's exactly what I was thinking :LOL:
 
Arqentus said:
I rather have a massive external passive cooled PSU, then a small internal PSU that runs hot, ready to burn up, powered by a screaming fan to prevent it from creating a Nuclear meltdown ...

I agree with your point, generally, and find it strange that some here are seemingly bothered with a PS being "too large". If it is large, it seems a good thing it is external, because that most certainly has a positive impact on the size of the console. Additionally, heat generation issues inside the console are nicely cut right in half, by going external. Going external is a smart choice.

Seeing as how heated the GFLOP envy debate is, it seems that people should be more hyped over a PS being "bigger" rather smaller. In a loose context, the capacity/size of the PS is somewhat a reflection of the resource abundant processing might inside the console.

I still haven't see anybody comment on the spec'd power capacity of these bricks- not even a guess. What are we talking about here- 100 W, 150 W, 200+ W? I'd really like to know. If memory serves, the old PS2 came in at a 75 W power rating.
 
Just thought I'd point out that element worked on Fuzion Frenzy but is no longer an MS dev. His studio will be doing games for both consoles, AFAIK.
 
randycat99 said:
Additionally, heat generation issues inside the console are nicely cut right in half, by going external. Going external is a smart choice.

Yup. Smart design with the xbox 360.

External passively cooled power supply = no noise, no fan, and moves a heat source outside of the case.

External add-on HD = moves another heat source outside of the case, you keep your HD if you need to send the xbox in for service, you can move the HD between xboxes.

I'm actually really suprised no one has built big external power supplies for PCs. I'd pay a lot of money for a passively cooled external power supply for my home theatre PC -- I'd imagine it would be a lot easier to design and safer than the fanless internal power supplies I can buy today, which kind of scare me with how hot their heatsinks can get and how much heat they dump into the case.
 
randycat99 said:
Well...for a laptop style HD, I don't imagine it was particularly hot as a matter of design, eh? ;)

True, but every little bit helps. :) Also have you noticed how hot modern laptops get? I hesitate to call them laptops any more, because they can't really go on your lap these days. ;)
 
scooby_dooby said:
Maybe they're meant to power multuiple consoles?

In the Gamespot video, they show a rack of like 40 X360 being tested in the factory, however it looks like they are all running off only 7 or 8 powerbars.


Nah, there are 5 X360 consoles on the bottom shelf with 1 PSU each, the X360's above them would probably have there's behind the console.
 
expletive said:
Why is there so much discussion about the size of this PSU? Who cares!

It is part of the console right? What's the problem? If the PS3 is bigger then we will talk about that too.
 
Well, I figure talking about it for the PS3 will be just as stupid. Who really cares how big the PSU is? Its tucked away in the back of your entertainment center, cabinet, or whatever you store your consoles in. The thing won't even be visible.
 
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