Future of 3D gaming and media *spawn

Something else to note is that the Japanese are notorious for buying electronics for features that are new but that they ultimately may never use.

My mother and her sister over there for example bough DVD player/recorders there about 7 years ago. They both still predominantly watch VHS tapes. :p

Hmm… might be an extreme case. Ultimately, for example, your mother's and sister's VHS preference had no significant impact on DVD adoption.

Most DVD recorders sold in Japan are Blu-ray recorder these days. If the manufacturers build 3D capability into mid-high level SKUs, they will penetrate/seed into homes.

At this point, the industry has to create more interesting 3D content (like what Sony, Nintendo and their partners are trying to do now).
 
Hmm… might be an extreme case. Ultimately, for example, your mother's and sister's VHS preference had no significant impact on DVD adoption.

Most DVD recorders sold in Japan are Blu-ray recorder these days. If the manufacturers build 3D capability into mid-high level SKUs, they will penetrate/seed into homes.

At this point, the industry has to create more interesting 3D content (like what Sony, Nintendo and their partners are trying to do now).

Oh yes, it's certainly an extreme example. It was just the first one that popped into my head. In the Tokyo suburb they are in, the last major video store to rent VHS tapes finally stopped about 1 year ago. There's still a local rental store here and there which stocks them but those are pretty rare.

But the camera example is far more common. And with regards to statistics just be sure to take with a large grain of salt. After all, greather than 90% of murderers in Japan are caught by the police. But the part of that which isn't reported is that unless the Detectives on the case know without a doubt who did the killing and are almost 100% sure they'll be caught and prosecuted, the death will not be classified as a murder and will instead be classified as a natural death or something else which does not equate to a crime. They are very good at creative use of Statistics over there. :)

Regards,
SB
 
*Shrug* The stats are saying despite a 30% price premium, the Japanese consumers are taking in 3D-capable displays and playback devices compared to cheaper models. Whether they become regular 3D consumers, well, that will depend on the content providers and the state of the tech.

Once 3DS is launched, there will be more 3D content on the market.
 
Engadget's transcript on 3DS Preview Conference:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/19/live-from-nintendos-3ds-preview-with-reggie-fils-aime/

9:37AM MSRP: $249.99



9:36AM Nintendo e-shop will make Game Boy and Game Boy Advance titles available.



9:35AM "In addition, Spot Pass makes contact with wireless broadband so you can get new content. This happens during gameplay and in sleep mode, but no transfers occur unless you want them to."

9:34AM "Community building can happen automatically -- Streetpass connects automatically. The local wireless connection connects in sleep mode or while you're playing a game."

9:33AM Some of the new features will become operational with online system updates. There's also a new friend code system -- one code necessary, and you only need to register it once. When friends are registered over local wireless, it's instantaneous, with no code input needed.

9:32AM Enhanced internet browser, and the same great sound as the DSi.

9:32AM AR Games is a suite of augmented reality games -- one of the most popular features with testers.




9:31AM Miis will be swapped from 3DS to 3DS over Streetpass.


9:30AM "Next is a Mii-maker, similar to the Wii. You can use the camera to take your photo and the hardware will create your own player, and you can make fine adjustments." We'd heard about this.

9:30AM "Let's detail the software that comes with the system. Activity log that tracks both physical movement and action. Keeps track of what games you play and how long, as well as a pedometer that encourages you to get up and walk to earn coins."

9:29AM In the period between the launch and E3, they expect consumers to choose from more than 30 3DS games, in sports, action, shooter, fighter, family, racing, and RPG. All available at or near launch day.

[More !]

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Lot's of photos in the link.

EDIT:
Nintendo 3DS launches detailed, coming to US March 27 for $249.99, Europe on March 25:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/19/nintendo-3ds-us-launch-detailed-coming-to-the-us-in-march-27-fo/

Little Nintendo 3DS Features You Should Know About:
http://www.siliconera.com/2011/01/19/little-nintendo-3ds-features-you-should-know-about/
 
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/01/20/3ds_movies_and_touch_generations/

Nintendo usually downplays potential multimedia possibilities for its game devices. Not with 3DS. The company has been talking about the possibility of non-gaming 3D through the device since the June 2010 unveiling. In the latest Iwata Asks column for the device, CEO Satoru Iwata suggested some possible uses for 3D content providers.

...

Iwata feels that 3D content creators are troubled because there are few output areas at present. While theaters show 3D content, 3D televisions have yet to spread, and Iwata does not believe that 3D TVs that make use of special glasses will go very far.

"When we show 3DS to people from Hollywood, they express tremendous interest," said Iwata. "We believe many people will be happy if we make it so that you can use the 3DS to watch things like, for instance, 3D movie trailers."

"It is possible to distribute trailers to Nintendo 3DS," said Iwata. He also noted that, in the case of a Wi-Fi environment, the system can receive the content while the owner is asleep via its SpotPass feature.

While noting that Nintendo is a game company and thus tends to place its focus on games, Iwata said "One of this device's values is that it can play back 3D videos." There are many video playback devices throughout the world, he noted, but few that can play back 3D videos.
 
The Early Adopter Tales

The Early Adopter Tales
Insert second rant about "companies working together"...if you think game exclusivity is insane (I don't but I'm biased) then movie to CE mfr exclusivity will drive you bonkers.

Sorry, Samsung I am NOT paying $300 to get the Shrek trilogy in 3D and I will have already had all the 3D equipment I need by the time Megamind hits retail. Hey, Panasonic when your exclusivity runs out in 2012 I'm sure I will have put Avatar 3D, a movie that I really really didn't like but was 'going to buy simply because it is one of the few 3D titles out there', out of my mind. These are not the only two (three) cases and each time is bullshit.


We replaced our BD player with another BD player the samsung c6800 which looks like it might be going back since Samsung does not seem to have plans to offer Hulu Plus on it. The player is decent enough, facebook, vudu, netflix and an app store but neither implementation is better than what I currently have on the 360; Netflix is awful in comparison. The wife and I used our vudu credit to watch an "HDX" movie same price as Zune Marketplace (more if you include tax which I don't pay when buying and using MS points) but the streaming was good, no hiccups, I also like the layout of their information panels better than Zune and WAY better than the non-console implementations of Netflix...WAY. BETTER. I'm not sure which format vudu is going to use for streaming 3D though (I'll check after I post).
 
Yap ! VUDU is awesome. Very intuitive and informative UI. SD->HDX streaming that works. Day-and-date movie library. $2/2 nights promotion. Free $6 signup credits... and now 3D streaming movies. On the PS3, they have 2 different interfaces for 720p and 1080p displays.

Hulu Plus is nice for HD TV programs and older movies.
 
Yap ! VUDU is awesome. Very intuitive and informative UI. SD->HDX streaming that works. Day-and-date movie library. $2/2 nights promotion. Free $6 signup credits... and now 3D streaming movies. On the PS3, they have 2 different interfaces for 720p and 1080p displays.

Hulu Plus is nice for HD TV programs and older movies.

I don't disagree at all about Vudu but for now it isn't a replacement for Zune Marketplace for us. We are rarely ever itching to see a new movie I literally still have a Netflix disc that we got in March 2010 that I have yet to watch and we are on the one-disc plan :oops: but we do watch tv shows through Netflix and Zune all the time. Hulu Plus doesn't even come close to meeting my "needs" as a tv show by the season viewer, it doesn't even come close to Hulu.com. Right now I'm thinking about adding an HTPC to our mix but it purpose would probably only be for playon maybe media center live tv functionality but as you can see live tv isn't such a big deal for us. Prior to watching the awfulness that was the Bears on Sunday the only other live tv show I watched was....the Bears the prior weekend and I could not honestly tell you before that. Tonight is an anomaly because of the State of the Union address which I never miss.
 
If you don't watch new movies, you don't need, and won't see the value of VUDU. ^_^

For Hulu Plus, a subscriber should be able to watch shows on multiple devices (iOS, PS3 and assorted players). You of course get to watch hulu.com for free as well. The HD selection on Hulu Plus should be bigger than NetFlix.

In any case, I came to post this:
http://www.crunchgear.com/2011/01/25/nict-shows-200-inch-naked-eye-3d-display/

Japan’s NICT (National Institute of Information and Communications Technology) has developed a projector system [JP] that makes it possible to produce 200-inch 3D pictures that can be viewed without having to wear 3D glasses.

A total of 64 projectors are used to project 3D “images in HD” (NICT didn’t reveal details) onto a screen that’s 2.5m high and 4m wide. The technology was co-developed with JVC Kenwood, and needless to say, it’s a first.

NICT says that inititally, they encountered problems with the quality of the images but then boosted brightness, colors and other factors by using a special film for the screen and building a condenser lens into it.

The institute wants to use the screen for digital signage solutions, public viewings, and showrooms. NICT plans to develop a system that’s boasting 200 projectors as the next step.

EDIT:
Also for VUDU…
http://blog.vudu.com/?p=1049

Today our next generation interface will be pushed to most enabled devices. VUDU 2.0 is optimized for HD quality and to help you discover your next favorite movie even faster & more enjoyably. Everything you loved about the existing VUDU is the same – quick access to the hottest new releases, Rotten Tomatoes reviews, linked filmographies of cast and crew – is now even better.
Here is what you will find in the new UI:
-Improved browsing and navigation
-Faster access to more great movies
-Recommendations based on your viewing history
-A 2.0 interface optimized for HD viewing and next generation controllers

This will be automatic, no downloads or discs or extra clicks.

We are currently working to update VIZIO TVs & Samsung devices to the new 2.0 interface — we expect the update to roll out to those TVs and devices soon.

I may have made a mistake. The VUDU interface I saw on my 1080p PS3 is this new UI. Have been using it for a few weeks now. They must have chosen my family as one of the UI test subjects. It's nice:
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The 720p UI in my office PS3 was the old one.

Just checked. Yap, my 720p office PS3 is using the new look now also.

If my memory doesn't fail me, there should be a category for 3D movies.
 
64 projectors with a future version utilizing 200 projectors? I don't think that would be feasible even in a Theater. :)

Still, ignoring the whole practicality of the system, it's definitely nice to see companies thinking outside of the conventional 3D box. :) And more importantly, making some progress.

Regards,
SB
 
Probably related to the scale:

NICT says that inititally, they encountered problems with the quality of the images but then boosted brightness, colors and other factors by using a special film for the screen and building a condenser lens into it.
 
3net 24/7 3D channel launches this weekend, but only on DirecTV:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/10/3net-24-7-3d-channel-launches-this-weekend-but-only-on-directv/

The number of 24/7 broadcasting 3D channels in the US will go from one to three next week, now that Sony, Imax and Discovery have announced the launch of their channel, 3net, on DirecTV alongside its existing n3D channel and ESPN 3D, which will start looping its sports videos 24/7 on Valentine's Day. Scheduled to go live at 8 p.m. Sunday night on channel 107 it promises fresh debuts all month with a new show added to the rotation every night at 9 p.m.
 
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011...s-illustrated-swimsuit-video-available-today/

As the folks over at Sports Illustrated previously announced, their iconic swimsuit models are available to make an appearance in your living room today—in 3D—when the exclusive video hits the PlayStation Store. The “Swimsuit in 3D” video, which is also available for rental and purchase in 2D format, features the swimsuit models on-location at their 2011 shoots for the popular edition of the magazine.

In addition to the behind-the-scenes 3D video, we’re also excited to bring you more than 12 hours of Swimsuit video content, including the official hour-long “Making of Sports Illustrated Swimsuit 2011”

blah...
 
Comcast Is About to Give You Round-The-Clock 3D Programming:
http://gizmodo.com/#!5763529/comcast-is-about-to-give-you-round+the+clock-3d-programming

Starting this Sunday (February 20) at 6p EST, Comcast is launching an all-3D TV channel that runs content 24 hours a day. Unconcerned with a lack of consumer interest in 3DTVs, Comcast wants to make sure you get all the 3D hockey matches and Kings of Leon concerts you can stomach



The launch of Xfinity 3D is the latest in a series of 3D programming offered by Comcast. Last month, Comcast launched HBO 3D On Demand providing customers access to movies such as Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs, Monsters vs. Aliens and Coraline. Through a partnership with Augusta National Golf Club, Comcast also delivered the first live national next-generation 3D sporting event with the Masters Golf Tournament last year.

[so on and so forth]

EDIT:
Engadget also called this out:
Comcast also announced that there have been more than one million 3D views On Demand since the Masters Golf Tournament in April 2010.
 
LG Announces The First 3D Phone With 3D Camera:
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/3D/LG/LG_Announces_The_First_3D_Phone_With_3D_Camera/6376

LG's new 3D phone offers a 4.3 inch WVGA touchscreen that allows you to see 3D images without having to wear special glasses. In addition to 3D playback, it can take 3D pictures and record 3D video.

You'll get 1080p out of the LG Optimus 3D's two dimensional recordings, but scaling up to 3D will drop you down to 720p. It also boasts an HDMI 1.4 connection for simple playback on your 3D television.


LG also released a Passive 3D TV in Korea:
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/3D_TV/LG/LG_Releases_Flicker_Free_3D_TV_in_Korea/6377
 
Finally, my HT re-do is complete. Some things of note, my 65ft active USB cable works without a single hiccup for Kinect, 3D on Plasma and LCD is borderline crap compared to that of my current projector (actually every projector that I have seen 3D on) and for those that don't want to spend $3k and have an HTPC or a PC that can be made into one, I highly, highly, recommend the $500 Acer 3D DLP projector. 3D in the home is between exponentially better and order of magnitude better than 3D in theaters (save a handful of uber-theaters) but these damn glasses are still way too expensive (cost me $480 for three...but I saw some Xpand 103s on Amazon for under $100); personal opinion is that at most they need to be the price of a controller (game) so $40-50 placing it at, pricey but attainable, for most.

As a nice bonus sold my entire old(er) HT package yesterday and made another family pretty happy. I threw in probably 10 or so 360 games including all my plastic stuff I was never going to use again (rock band2, Scene it). Feels good and he was ecstatic, especially since he didn't realize he was getting games and about 100 HD movies. Was his first HD purchase. :smile:

Recognizing that my "crap" comment will be met with heated feelings let me simply say I am uninterested in arguing and this is not justifying/rationalizing my purchase since I gave a very "affordable" option for GREAT 3D (as in 3D that is better than mine with fewer dollars spent).

Short version, I am no longer anti-3D.
 
Recognizing that my "crap" comment will be met with heated feelings let me simply say I am uninterested in arguing and this is not justifying/rationalizing my purchase since I gave a very "affordable" option for GREAT 3D (as in 3D that is better than mine with fewer dollars spent).

Short version, I am no longer anti-3D.

Gah… I hope your relatively positive comments for 3D setup means you really like the products ! Would be in time to play Crysis 2 too. It'd be sad if you hate them, and adjust your feedback because of hateful comments.
 
Finally, my HT re-do is complete. Some things of note, my 65ft active USB cable works without a single hiccup for Kinect, 3D on Plasma and LCD is borderline crap compared to that of my current projector (actually every projector that I have seen 3D on) and for those that don't want to spend $3k and have an HTPC or a PC that can be made into one, I highly, highly, recommend the $500 Acer 3D DLP projector. 3D in the home is between exponentially better and order of magnitude better than 3D in theaters (save a handful of uber-theaters) but these damn glasses are still way too expensive (cost me $480 for three...but I saw some Xpand 103s on Amazon for under $100); personal opinion is that at most they need to be the price of a controller (game) so $40-50 placing it at, pricey but attainable, for most.

As a nice bonus sold my entire old(er) HT package yesterday and made another family pretty happy. I threw in probably 10 or so 360 games including all my plastic stuff I was never going to use again (rock band2, Scene it). Feels good and he was ecstatic, especially since he didn't realize he was getting games and about 100 HD movies. Was his first HD purchase. :smile:

Recognizing that my "crap" comment will be met with heated feelings let me simply say I am uninterested in arguing and this is not justifying/rationalizing my purchase since I gave a very "affordable" option for GREAT 3D (as in 3D that is better than mine with fewer dollars spent).

Short version, I am no longer anti-3D.

If you want to use PS3/360 with that acer projector you can buy the optoma 3D-XL for about £250, will make it HDMI 1.4 compatible.
 
http://www.siliconera.com/2011/02/19/lets-watch-someone-play-lets-go-island-3d/

Sega has a glasses-free arcade game… designed for couples. The publisher converted Let’s Go Island: Lost on the Island of Tropics to Let’s Go Island 3D.

So, what makes this a good date game? Let’s Go Island just like its predecessor Let’s Go Jungle monitors when players lock on to the same enemy and how in sync they are during action sequences. At the end of the game, Let’s Go Island shows a compatibility meter for the two players.


 
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