Forza 5 [XO] *large pics inside*

[Jwm]

@Cyan - I uploaded a tune for Yas South, in practice I have done some low 1:09's with it. Search under my gamertag and take it for a spin, it is a bit front limited but otherwise it is really well balanced and well behaved. Not good at all for tracks that need speed, and I have worked out the brakes to be friendly even without abs.

This track is interesting, I have had some great setups but the compromise needed between speed and handling is really needed. I went with a HP setup where all other suspension parts/tires were stock and could put it into the 1:11's. So I am really finding this track to be a fun challenge, easy to make a mistake and lose lots of time.

Edit: Probably give up in a day or two, I think 1:06's are the time to beat and I have not been able to find a setup to take me there. I think I am giving up too much top speed for corner stability over the kerbs. Trying to decide what track to play on next?

 

[Cyan]

Okay Jwm, whenever I play the game again I shall give your setup and the car you use a try. I think I don't have it. I purchased a few cars lately, but not many, and certainly not the car with which you set that record.

I am not going to break the land speed record with it, but I think that perhaps I can make a decent time.

 

[Onkl Bjorni]

Just starting to find my groove in Forza 5, and could use a few more "friendly" faces in the Rivals and Driveatar list, so if anyone wants to add me to their friend list, my gamer tag is "Onkl Bjorni" (without the "")

Jwm, I sent you a friend request.

 

[Cyan]

I shall add you right away whenever I go online. My gt is Ruin of Palmira

 

[Jwm]

I did some online races for the first time and that did not go well, what a mess for me. I think I will stick with the Drivatars! I hit someone in one race and I do not have names turned on, I feel bad but after watching everyone else hit on each other he probably won't notice. I had a ghosted car turn solid just as I crossed it as well, that sucked.

Added you both, I need to figure out where the confirm friend option went? I just searched for your names and added you, is that the new way?

I am having more fun with the game now, and I am used to the simulation steering but that took a few days. I used to race RC cars many years ago, I wish there was a controller adapter or even a controller styled like a pro RC transmitter - something like VRC Pro allows.

 

[Cyan]

I did some online races for the first time and that did not go well, what a mess for me. I think I will stick with the Drivatars! I hit someone in one race and I do not have names turned on, I feel bad but after watching everyone else hit on each other he probably won't notice. I had a ghosted car turn solid just as I crossed it as well, that sucked.

Added you both, I need to figure out where the confirm friend option went? I just searched for your names and added you, is that the new way?

I am having more fun with the game now, and I am used to the simulation steering but that took a few days. I used to race RC cars many years ago, I wish there was a controller adapter or even a controller styled like a pro RC transmitter - something like VRC Pro allows.

I had added you previously already. Thanks for sharing the setup Jwm!! I improved my time using your setup within the first 10 laps and decreased my lap time to 1:10:398, iirc.

The car brakes like a dream and the acceleration, gear tuning is just PERFECT for that track in particular. No wonder you always shaved some time off of mine when coming out of corners back when I held the record. I think Onkl also beat me at that track, I will be coming back with a vengeance guys.

The car is slightly tail happy compared to the Audi RS3 Sportback, but the Audi grips like a board -as we say here-, so it's difficult, really difficult to beat in that department, although the acceleration -long gears-, braking is far from being so good as in your car/setup.

Trying your car has encouraged me to tune the setups a little more.

On a different note, you can claim a free car in Forza 5 as a Xmas gift if you have the Limited Collector's Edition.

A complicated decision for me, they gave me the Formula 1 car Lotus E21 and LaFerrari for free, but now it is you who must choose the car.

I am going either Lamborghini or Dodge Viper or McLaren P1... I don't know yet. I just want to buy one of the most expensive cars so I can save a LOT credits for later.

The news fully explains how you can get the free car here. I am in the process right now.

http://www.neowin.net/news/psa-forza-motorsport-5-vip-users-can-claim-a-free-car

 

[Cyan]

Update. It is easy as pie!! You have to go to the link below! (btw, I got a message yesterday that said I got gifted the Boss Mustang 302, it might be the one with the Halo livery, I haven't checked my cars' list yet, I have like 15 or so)

I gotta check the ratings and prices of the cars in the game first before deciding which one.

A tough choice if you ask me. :smile2:

http://rewards.forzamotorsport.net/fm5lce

GOOD NEWS! AS AN LCE OWNER, YOU HAVE INSTANT ACCESS TO A CAR OF YOUR CHOICE. SELECT FROM THE CARS BELOW.

Spoiler

2005 Dodge SRT4 ACR
2011 BMW 1 Series M Coupe
2012 Dodge Challenger SRT8 392
1960 Chevrolet Corvette
2013 Ford Shelby GT500
2012 Hennessey Venom GT
2013 Ford Shelby Mustang GT500 Limited Collector Edition
2007 Ferrari 430 Scuderia
2011 BMW Z4 sDrive35is
1965 MINI Cooper S
1971 Lotus Elan Sprint
1968 Oldsmobile Hurst/Olds 442
2011 Mazda RX-8 R3
2009 Pagani Zonda Cinque Roadster
1990 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
2010 Audi R8 Coupé 5.2 FSI quattro
1987 RUF CTR Yellowbird
2012 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Black Series
2013 Chevrolet #12 Team Penske Dallara DW12
2011 McLaren MP4-12C
2012 Dodge Charger SRT8
2013 Lotus E21
2013 Viper #91 SRT Motorsport GTS-R
1981 BMW M1
1967 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 427
2013 Audi S4
2005 Ford Ford GT
2013 Ariel Atom 500 V8
1965 Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe
2011 Citroën DS3 Racing
2000 Nissan Silvia Spec-R
2013 Hyundai Veloster Turbo
2011 Cadillac CTS-V Coupe
2013 Ford Focus ST
2009 MINI John Cooper Works
1984 Ferrari GTO
1991 BMW M3
2010 Abarth 500 esseesse
2004 Saleen S7
2013 Chevrolet #1 Andretti Autosport Dallara DW12
2013 McLaren P1 Limited Collector Edition
2010 Nissan 370Z
2007 Honda Civic Type-R
2009 Ford Focus RS
2005 Honda NSX-R
1982 Lancia 037 Stradale
1993 McLaren F1
2013 Subaru BRZ
1971 Plymouth Cuda 426 HEMI
1969 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am
2009 Lexus IS F
1987 Buick Regal GNX
1994 Toyota Celica GT-Four ST205
2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STi
2011 Subaru WRX STI
2010 Mazda Mazdaspeed 3
2013 Toyota GT86
2013 Audi RS 7 Sportback
2012 Jaguar XKR-S
2010 Lamborghini Murciélago LP 670-4 SV
2007 Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione
2010 Aston Martin One-77
2004 Honda Civic Type-R
1997 Lamborghini Diablo SV
1987 Ferrari F40
1995 Ford SVT Cobra R
2002 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec II
2012 Audi #1 Audi Team Joest R18 e-tron quattro
1976 Ferrari #1 Scuderia Ferrari 312 T2
1966 Ford GT40 MkII
2010 Maserati Gran Turismo S
1995 RUF CTR2
1961 Jaguar E-type S1
2011 RUF Rt 12 S
2009 BMW #92 Rahal Letterman Racing M3 GT2
2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
2012 Mercedes-Benz SLK55 AMG
1991 Mazda #55 Mazdaspeed 787B
2003 Nissan Fairlady Z
1963 Volkswagen Beetle
2008 Ferrari California
1954 Mercedes-Benz 300SL Gullwing Coupe
2012 Pagani Huayra
2003 BMW M5
2011 Holden HSV GTS
2005 Mercedes-Benz SLR
2010 Ferrari 599 GTO
2008 Aston Martin DBS
1988 Lamborghini Countach LP5000 QV
1969 Chevrolet Nova SS 396
2012 Vauxhall Astra VXR
2012 BMW M5
1970 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
2013 Honda #15 Target Rahal Letterman Dallara DW12
1970 Chevrolet El Camino SS 454
2002 Ferrari Enzo Ferrari
1971 AMC Javelin-AMX
2010 Renault Megane RS 250
2011 Lamborghini Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggera
1983 Audi Sport Quattro
2012 Land Rover Range Rover Supercharged
2011 Koenigsegg Agera
2009 Lotus 2-Eleven
1993 Ford SVT Cobra R
1984 Volkswagen Rabbit GTI
1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS-454
1970 Mercury Cougar Eliminator
2009 Honda S2000 CR
2010 Volkswagen Golf R
1973 BMW 2002 Turbo
2011 Holden #1 Toll Holden Racing Team Commodore VE
1998 Eagle Talon TSi Turbo
2010 Audi TT RS Coupé
1997 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec
2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR
1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
2003 Toyota Celica SS-I
2011 Peugeot 308 GTI
2002 Chevrolet Camaro 35th Anniversary SS
1964 Aston Martin DB5 Vantage
1970 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1
1985 Ford RS200 Evolution
1977 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am
1998 Ferrari #12 Risi Competizione F333 SP
2012 Aston Martin Vanquish
2014 Ford Fiesta ST
1990 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.5-16 Evolution II
2013 KTM X-Bow R
1969 Ford Mustang Boss 302
1991 Ferrari 512 TR
1970 Nissan Datsun 510
1965 Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
2013 Mercedes-Benz G65 AMG
2012 Aston Martin Vanquish Limited Collector Edition
2007 Ford Shelby GT500
2013 Viper GTS Limited Collector Edition
2012 Nissan GT-R Black Edition
1970 Dodge Challenger R/T
1976 McLaren #11 Team McLaren M23
2009 Ferrari 458 Italia
1998 Subaru Impreza 22B STi
1997 BMW M3
2013 Audi R8 Coupé V10 plus
1998 Toyota Supra RZ
2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1
2013 Mazda MX-5
2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X GSR
2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1
1999 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR
1993 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec
2003 Volkswagen Golf R32
1985 Toyota Sprinter Trueno GT Apex
2001 Acura Integra Type-R
2011 Audi RS 3 Sportback
2012 Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4
2010 Lexus LFA
1994 Ferrari F355 Berlinetta
1992 Honda NSX-R
2009 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8
2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track
2011 Audi RS3 Sportback Limited Collector Edition
2008 BMW M3
2003 Ferrari Challenge Stradale
2011 Ferrari #62 Risi Competizione F458 Italia
2011 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor
1962 Ferrari 250 GTO
1997 Mazda RX-7
1971 Nissan Skyline 2000GT-R
1969 Pontiac GTO Judge
2012 Scion tC
2011 Kia cee'd
2011 Audi RS 5 Coupé
2011 Bugatti Veyron Super Sport
2013 Viper GTS
2006 Audi RS 4
2011 BMW X5 M
1995 Ferrari F50
1967 Lamborghini Miura P400
2012 Ferrari F12berlinetta
2009 Peugeot #9 Peugeot Sport Total 908
1995 Volkswagen Corrado VR6
2013 McLaren P1
1997 Honda Civic Type R
1965 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GTA Stradale
2006 Aston Martin #007 Aston Martin Racing DBR9
2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR
2013 Honda #9 Target Chip Ganassi Dallara DW12
1973 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am SD-455
2012 Infiniti IPL G Coupe
1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS Coupe
2011 Volkswagen Scirocco R
1992 Volkswagen Golf Gti 16v Mk2
1991 GMC Syclone
2011 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG
2005 BMW M3
2005 TVR Sagaris
1957 Ferrari 250 Testa Rossa
1993 Nissan 240SX SE
2003 Renault Sport Clio V6
1999 Dodge Viper GTS ACR
1992 Ford Escort RS Cosworth
1995 Toyota MR2 GT
2011 Chevrolet #4 Corvette Racing ZR1
2012 Chrysler 300 SRT8
2005 Subaru Impreza WRX STi
2000 Ford SVT Cobra R
1986 Lancia Delta S4
1994 Mazda MX-5 Miata
2011 Ford #5 Ford Performance Racing FG Falcon
2012 Lotus Exige S

 

[Cyan]

I chose.... The Saleen S7 is and always has been one of my favourite cars. After much consideration I decided that I am going to save the moneys for the truly expensive cars by levelling up normally.

p.s. many, many thanks to the mod that compiled my raw copy/paste list of cars and made it neat and tidy looking. Whoever he/she was, you are awesome. Thanks!

 

[Jwm]

I chose.... The Saleen S7 is and always has been one of my favourite cars. After much consideration I decided that I am going to save the moneys for the truly expensive cars by levelling up normally.

p.s. many, many thanks to the mod that compiled my raw copy/paste list of cars and made it neat and tidy looking. Whoever he/she was, you are awesome. Thanks!

I have a million credits just from doing the rival hot lapping at 2am. Woohoo!

Edit: When I complain about the sounds of Forza, here is why -

 

[RudeCurve]

Way cool...

 

[Cyan]

I have a million credits just from doing the rival hot lapping at 2am. Woohoo!

Edit: When I complain about the sounds of Forza, here is why -

Yup, the game shows some very promising possibilities in regards to the sound -the 2008 Viper STR10 ACR sounds very nice, more noticeable if you use the bonnet camera- and it is one of most important things in games for me.

Other cars sound ok, just very generic. Improved sound is my top priority for Forza 6.

Way cool...

I hope we have more and more contests like that. Alas, despite the many things that can inspire me to try designs, I don't have that art skills to try something as meaningful as I'd like to. :/

Having your design making it into the real world for a professional race is quite nice. Congratz to the Belgian guy who won the design contest.

 

[Cyan]

I have a million credits just from doing the rival hot lapping at 2am. Woohoo!

Edit: When I complain about the sounds of Forza, here is why -

There are games like Project Cars that are up to par. Here is an example:

Forza 5 has some very nice sounds, but expecting the same kind of audio is just an exercise in impracticality at this point. That and things like the lack of telemetry are for now the things I miss the most from previous Forza games.

Number of cars when they worked on them from scratch, that I can quite understand though. That and the amazing Drivatar AI, which makes every race different and exciting, almost real life like. That's where the Xbox One shines with Forza.

But when you have things like Assetto Corsa or Project Cars in the horizon, coming to the PC, then you feel like things can improve in the console side.

 

[RudeCurve]

There's like no sound at all...

 

[Jwm]

I remember this game was fantastic when it first came out -

Viper -

Raceroom -

If I remember correctly, many of the great devs from SimBin have left to do pCars - so I highly expect amazing things from them.

Edit: In a race car you do hear everything like in the Raceroom video, you hear the rocks being kicked up on to the floor of the car that no longer has any sound proofing materials, etc. You also hear different types of tire sounds, sometimes on a treaded tire you can hear the individual blocks making a noise through the corner as you are not fully near a skid that would create a squeal. It is a wild and exciting experience, while your production based cars are going to more silent like in the video shown from RudeCurve.

 

[RudeCurve]

It is a wild and exciting experience, while your production based cars are going to more silent like in the video shown from RudeCurve.

Yep...that's exactly why I posted that video. I love the raw sound of pure race cars but high performance production cars unfortunately do not sound as good...in cockpit.

 

[Jwm]

Yep...that's exactly why I posted that video. I love the raw sound of pure race cars but high performance production cars unfortunately do not sound as good...in cockpit.

What is fun with single seaters/open wheel cars is the amount of material between your arse and the road surface is a scary few mm's. Karting is great because your seat actually rubs the asphalt, a few times I have wondered how I have not ripped anything off when bouncing over a kerb! haha

 

[Rangers]

I think this video shows we can use at least another generation. Neither a Forza nor Gran Turismo looks this good.

 

[milk]

Well, those games prefer sunny days, and a beautified aesthetic that are more filmic than the rawer images produced by actual cameras put on cars on these videos and their terrible IQ. That and all the dirt on the windshield and other light aberrations caused by it. All things that were those games to try to replicate, they'd get a lot of crap from gaming enthusiasts in forums like this for screwing visibility and whatnot.

 

[Arwin]

No, but Gran Turismo still comes really close. It really helps that you can set the time of day and the weather ... I was driving pretty much this car and class on New Years Eve with a friend who picked it because he went to see the real thing last summer. Biggest gripe on his end is the sound - the real thing is a scary beast, and the GT6 sound is off quite a bit.

 

[Onkl Bjorni]

So, I'v had some time with Forza 5 now. This is some of my thoughts on it.

I'll start with the negative / what needs improving (all IMO of course)

The missing social aspect that was in Forza 4 (Car clubs, marketplace for cars, tunes and liveries, but supposedly a marketplace is coming, so there is still hope on that front)

Number of tracks. Now, i do understand their point about the time and resources required to remake the tracks in the quality they wanted, but I think they would have dodged a lot of the negative press/reactions if they had included all the tracks from Forza 4 (that are not remade) in their original quality (in essence just upscaled from Forza 4), but I guess that would take away their chance for track DLC at a later time, witch brings me to my next point.

Micro transactions, there is way to much focus on this sadly. You certainly are not required to use them, but almost every menu screen presents you with an option to boost your xp and to buy tokens for car purchases. But as I said, no need to use it and with the Forza Rewards program I certainly have enough cash (almost 9 000 000 at time of writing this)
Well, that is my biggest negative things I can think of at this time.


So, for the things I like / see great potential in.

Driveatars as AI opponents. I like this, it offer for most of the time a far greater challenge the the AI of previous Forza games and I'v had quite a few races that were nail biting right up to the finishing line. That said, I think it still need some work because at the start of every race there is a big risk of getting ram'ed by another car/AI and that can get annoying real quick (its not a big problem when the field opens up). So what I hope to se in the future is some better crash avoidance systems/algorithms.

The new tracks. I like them all, with Prague and Spa being my favorite two. Look forward to racing online with my Forza Club members as soon as they all get their Xbox One's (so far 2 of us has imported from Germany, release date in Norway is according to most online shops in July 2014)

The fact that tuning a car is almost identical to Forza 4. The only real difference I have found is the point were the breaks lock up when driving with ABS of. But I got accustom to it quite quickly, so not a problem.

The handling/feedback/feeling (of the car) is pretty much the best I have experienced in any racing game I have ever played. Very satisfying to get good setup on a car and literally hear and feel how all the little changes you make to the setup changes the handling and feeling of the car and how it changes the feedback it gives you (the sound of the tires griping the road and the rumble triggers)

The graphics. In my opinion the best looking console racer out there at the moment.


There are of course other small things I like/dislike, but I don't won't to ramble on to much

Well there is one more thing. Not having The Nurburgring included from the start, WTF were you thinking Turn 10 , but on the other hand, nothing really compares to driving around The Ring in your own car

Nurburgring Lap. My best lap time