snc
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probably because of this few latest unpolished trailers that weren't suposed to be released, imo final game will be closer to official released trailers which looks quite good (not mindblowing or nextgen but still quite good)
I think Forspoken will look appropriately next-gen. The sort of title that wont drop jaws to the floor when they boot it up, but once you go back and play a typical XB1/PS4 game afterwards, you'll realize it's definitely quite a bit more impressive overall. People's perceptions/standards tend to change quickly. We get this every new generation, seemingly.
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And for people buying RPGs, the graphics are not the draw. It's all about the mechanics, the setting and the story.
To be honest I DO love state of the art graphics in RPGs.
I remember back in the old days when we were expecting from Square Enix to deliver those visuals that would immerse us in those fantasy worlds.
They ve got a mixed record in that area.
Sure some RPGs are the cartoony, stylized type, but we also need those highly detailed more realistic ones too.
I d love to see an open world RPG by SE that is looking as good as Horizon Forbidden West.
Parasite Eve demands a remake btw.
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You absolutely want all of your games looking as good as they can be. But would you rather invest 80 hours into a bad RPG with good graphics, or a a good RPG with passable graphics?
Depending on the overall experience and price?
I mean, I'll gladly buy a 10 dollars bad RPG but have ludicrous graphics and only 5 hours gameplay.
Dunno how it is with other ppl
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Do such games (cheap, short, über graphics, crap) exist? This feels like a mix of qualities that wouldn't (couldn't?) succeed commercially. I.e. increasing the production values of the visuals tends to push the cost up even if the game is short. I don't know how you do that whist selling it cheap.
RPG is one of those genres that tend to be lengthy games. I don't know what the average is, but Witcher 3 is a good 80 hours, as are most JPRGs that I've played. No amount of graphics could make be play a bad RPG for that long.
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You'll be well served once all the UE5 store asset shovelware appears on Steam.
The devs already told press the preview demo was an unpolished build and they're currently in the final optimization/polishing phase for the next 5 months. We even had more polished looking footage of other areas just 3 months before the recent demo.
I want an awesome looking RPG with good gameplay
I d say the same can count for any game.
I want an awesome looking RPG with good gameplay
I d say the same can count for any game.
RPG titles did look quite nice 20 years ago. KOTOR did, amazing game at the time, visually and gameplay wise.
Silent_Buddha
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The comment mentioned looks as well, but alright. Also, disagree. Warframe movement traversal and combat looks highly jank and not fluid if you're just watching it. Not remotely on the same level as what's been shown in Forspoken.
He was saying the PC version of Corpus ice planet also looks awful, not bugged. The damage control to defend it though is funny given who brought up the warframe comment as a troll comparison attempt.
warframe pc ice planet
At this point I can only guess that you are trolling me. Yes, the Ice tileset is the worst in Warframe, but it's not even remotely that bad. You'd have to serious crank down all settings to low to get graphics that bad in Warframe. And that's on the worst/oldest tileset in the game (circa 2012) that was made for DX9 level graphics cards.
Here's an updated (circa 2015-2016) ice planet tileset.
And here's an updated (circa 2018 tileset).
At this point I'm wondering if you're deliberately trolling by choosing PC images with lowest settings on the oldest tileset (which is only found in 2-3 locations out of 250+ locations).
Regards,
SB
Do such games (cheap, short, über graphics, crap) exist? This feels like a mix of qualities that wouldn't (couldn't?) succeed commercially. I.e. increasing the production values of the visuals tends to push the cost up even if the game is short. I don't know how you do that whist selling it cheap.
RPG is one of those genres that tend to be lengthy games. I don't know what the average is, but Witcher 3 is a good 80 hours, as are most JPRGs that I've played. No amount of graphics could make be play a bad RPG for that long.
Have not found an RPG like that yet. There's a bunch of those kind of VR games tho. Most of them goes in the genre of "vr experience".
Like the walk in a 3d scanned Japan. Totally boring. But looks great.
At this point I can only guess that you are trolling me. Yes, the Ice tileset is the worst in Warframe, but it's not even remotely that bad. You'd have to serious crank down all settings to low to get graphics that bad in Warframe. And that's on the worst/oldest tileset in the game (circa 2012) that was made for DX9 level graphics cards.
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Here's an updated (circa 2015-2016) ice planet tileset.
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And here's an updated (circa 2018 tileset).
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At this point I'm wondering if you're deliberately trolling by choosing PC images with lowest settings on the oldest tileset (which is only found in 2-3 locations out of 250+ locations).
Regards,
SB
I searched the latest PS5 4k footage on youtube back then and that is literally how that area looks in a video recorded on Dec 15, 2021. Then searched Corpus Ice Planet PC footage and it looks the same.
The updated tiles you posted of a different area are still massively underwhelming though, not to mention the terrible geometry, and hilariously still does not back up your initial troll attempt in comparing it to Forspoken in a thread about Forspoken.
Finally. I wonder if its using mesh shading and Sampler Feedback as well?
Hopefully DLSS support is there too.
I hope that AMD partnership doesn't mean the Nvidia partner is over and subsequently restrict their RTX and DLSS features they had made a tech demo for...
They have another GDC talk as well.
https://gdconf.com/news/forspoken-n...frIMoB55Kaha7yNwxsmQNgpmurXvXgw11G599yckQPyoQ
"Keiji will cover the fundamental improvements implemented for Forspoken, and the creative approaches that were used to improve graphics precision for an open-world game. This includes global illumination initiatives, ray-traced shadow, and ambient occlusion that work in coordination with rasterization. The talk will also introduce the LOD automatic generation workflow that was designed to help artists improve their work efficiency, along with the benefits and challenges it entailed."
They have another GDC talk as well.
https://gdconf.com/news/forspoken-n...frIMoB55Kaha7yNwxsmQNgpmurXvXgw11G599yckQPyoQ
"Keiji will cover the fundamental improvements implemented for Forspoken, and the creative approaches that were used to improve graphics precision for an open-world game. This includes global illumination initiatives, ray-traced shadow, and ambient occlusion that work in coordination with rasterization. The talk will also introduce the LOD automatic generation workflow that was designed to help artists improve their work efficiency, along with the benefits and challenges it entailed."
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Can't wait to see what they have to say at that talk. Its going to be a long 3 weeks! And who'd have thought we'd be seeing DirectStorage enabled games as soon as May! I was starting to doubt whether there would be anything this year at all.
