Formula 1 - 2016 Season
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That's why I said leave it to driver/team decision either to risk car failure or take timed penalty.
To me it is unfair if driver does a perfect lap without damaging his tyres and another one flat-spots his on a fast lap and for doing that he gets good (used) set for race instead.
Qualifying is supposed to be about pushing to the limits and this is a compromise between the fact that we no longer have qualifying tires (which we should, this is F1) and a driver easing off and not pushing to the maximum.
But that's why they start on tyres from Q2 and not Q3. They can push all they want in Q3 and worst can happen they will have one less set of tyres to race on.
All comes down to what we want from set of rules. Current rules stipulate that the tyres used to get fastest lap from Q2 have to be used for the start of the race (dry). If you can't use them due to flatspot there should be some deterrent in place. If FIA changes rules and drops that point I'm more than happy to let drives start on any tyres they want.
And they should be pushing through all qualifying periods. Personally I find the rule absurd - leading to the situation such as Monaco where Ricciardo can run a completely different set of tires that he posted his Q3 lap on. This entire thing is a cost compromise because CVC doesn't run it as a sporting business but a profit center for themselves...
No. The tire(s) that they are replaced with have to have done a similar (or worse) number of laps and you have to get dispensation from the FIA - its not carte blanche.
Is Hamilton starting to lose it?
According to Lauda Lewis smashed his private part of Mercedes motorhome to pieces after Baku qualifying.
Lauda also said that Lewis was full of BS when he said his and Nicos relationship is better than ever and they've never respected each other more.
According to Lauda Lewis smashed his private part of Mercedes motorhome to pieces after Baku qualifying.
Lauda also said that Lewis was full of BS when he said his and Nicos relationship is better than ever and they've never respected each other more.
Billy Idol
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Starting??
Yeah, which was pure BS.Well I like that they get to race each other seriously, even though at times they seem to take it a bit too seriously. This last time though, it was Rosberg getting an official warning and two points against his license, right?
Reasoning:
- Nico had brake-by-wire issue, which affected his braking. The team was not allowed to inform him about it.
- Similar/same move Nico used (driving really, really deep into corner) has been used several times before, and it's been treated as "genius move" when it doesn't end up in crash
- There was still room for Hamilton to stay on track and not crash, yet he chose to turn into Nico. Wether this was deliberate or he didn't see Nico there is irrelevant.
- Even if there wouldn't have been room (which there was, image below), both Nico and Lewis have pushed each other out of track several times without any penalties
Image:
https://imgur.com/Vc006IZ
Affected his brake not his steering.
Stewards, having every bit of conceivable data to hand (Which we do not) apportioned blame squarely at Nico 'Cannot Race Fairly' Rosberg's door mind you. The fact he didn't turn his wheel enough to get round the corner when he did eventually turn his wheel was the biggest give away of his intentions to be honest. He knew what he was doing, he was hoping like Spa he was going to come away with the best outcome again. A smarter man would've let the driver behind through knowing he had a "major" problem, but that's not Nico who's race sense is only slightly above Maldando's.
Haters going to hate no matter what though I guess.
Stewards, having every bit of conceivable data to hand (Which we do not) apportioned blame squarely at Nico 'Cannot Race Fairly' Rosberg's door mind you. The fact he didn't turn his wheel enough to get round the corner when he did eventually turn his wheel was the biggest give away of his intentions to be honest. He knew what he was doing, he was hoping like Spa he was going to come away with the best outcome again. A smarter man would've let the driver behind through knowing he had a "major" problem, but that's not Nico who's race sense is only slightly above Maldando's.
Haters going to hate no matter what though I guess.
And when your brakes are losing it, steering into corner while breaking can easily end up in a spin, safest way to is slow as much as you can while going straight, and then turn - and no racing driver ever will just give the position away when you have a fair chance to keep your position, which Nico did by driving the corner as deep as he did - which you're entitled to do, too.
Hamilton has done very similar moves several times, forcing Nico (and others IIRC) off the track without any penalties - only difference being the other drivers had enough sense not to turn straight into Hamilton.
This time there was still even room for Hamilton on the outside had he not turned right into Nico - whether that room would have been there 'till the end of the corner can be debated, but if Hamilton and others can push others off the track, why couldn't Nico too?
Billy Idol
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It seems that you hate Ros, so yeah...haters going to hate 
Ok. From my point of view Hamilton is the one who "cannot race fairly". How often did he do the exact same thing to Rosberg in the first corner? A lot! The only thing that Rosberg did wrong on Sunday was that he did not make sure Lewis would DNF.
In 97 I know of a driver who was disqualified from the championship after a similar move Hamilton did here. Yes I mean Schumacher. The same move to steer into the opponent on the inside.
Look you are still a deluded Kimi fan who hates Hamilton for whatever reason so there little point discussing it with you.
Stewards having seen all the data do not agree with you.
Nico didn't have a fair chance of defending his place though did he, which is why he caused the collision.
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Stewards having seen all the data do not agree with you.
Nico didn't have a fair chance of defending his place though did he, which is why he caused the collision.
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Only on all occasions Hamilton did it stewards ruled it to be fine which tells you all you need to know.
Hamilton knows how to race and Nico doesn't.
The crux of the matter is Nico was not in front, the few times Hamilton has forced Nico off, Nico was behind and if he was a better driver he probably would be backed off instead of being forced off the track and losing additional spaces.
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The stewards, F1 Analysts, ex-drivers that are now commentators - what do they know, eh?
Surely, you know the difference between corner-exit and corner-entry? Most first corner moves you are talking about happened on corner-exit, and is effectively the same as Rosberg did on Hamilton multiple times this year too when he got a better start and found himself slightly ahead and on the inside of a corner. This in Austria was corner-entry.
Yet the same people have congratulated that very move made by Nico as genius when no-one decided to turn right into him
