Eye of the Serpent...Sony shows the future of stereoscopic displays for the PS4.

[Brimstone]

A head mounted display using two oled displays with simulated 5.1 sound. Hopefully they'll be able to achieve 1080p resolution within a few years with a hold time close to a CRT.

http://www.sonyinsider.com/2011/01/07/hands-on-with-sonys-3d-head-mounted-oled-glasses/#


The Unicorn = PS4.

 

[Silent_Buddha]

Oooof, that still looks larger and heavier than many of the LCD based stereoscopic glasses I've used, and even those were a pain to use for prolonged periods of time.

IMO, HMD's and glasses are a dead end when it comes to mass consumer adoption. The experience can be compelling, but the discomfort and other potential issues become the overriding concerns over time.

Regards,
SB

 

[corduroygt]

You have to admit the first thing that comes to anyone's mind when seeing those is the Virtual Boy. I don't think the comfort issues will ever be resolved with wearing LCD monitors right next to your eyes.

 

[poopypoo]

Seems like a rather predictable approach. Anyone who is researching in this field I want to tell, forget 1080p with monkeysauce or whatever. Stick to whatever works with the smlallest lightest footprint with high refresh rate. I doubt this is the solution, but if it must, please make a system that is cheap (obsolete in twelve weeks) and comfortable.

 

[-tkf-]

You have to admit the first thing that comes to anyone's mind when seeing those is the Virtual Boy. I don't think the comfort issues will ever be resolved with wearing LCD monitors right next to your eyes.

My first thought was Tron

 

[MfA]

You have to admit the first thing that comes to anyone's mind when seeing those is the Virtual Boy. I don't think the comfort issues will ever be resolved with wearing LCD monitors right next to your eyes.

I personally think it can be made as comfortable as normal glasses.

It's just a question of miniaturization and folding the lightpath (although refractive/reflective optics can't do it).

 

[Jedi2016]

I still think they're flat-out doing it wrong. No matter what "new" stuff they come up with, the base technology they're using is over a century old. Controlling the display of 2D images by directing them into separate eyes, to create an artificial "3D" effect. People have been doing that since before there were moving pictures.

They need to just scrap the 2D idea completely and actually create a fully 3D display technology. So what if it takes another twenty years? It probably will, and people will look back on what we're doing now with laughter.

 

[Humus]

So what if it takes another twenty years?

Yeah, I mean, clearly we should have skipped the whole LCD screen fad anyway and stuck to CRT for the time being because it will all be replaced by something better 10 years from now.

 

[Arwin]

From reading the article, I'd say they're doing it right. I'm very interested in this. It has the potential to be affordable enough to use, and when you go virtual reality, you need a personal display anyway. As long as they have learnt enough from previous failures to do it right this time with no medical implications, I have good faith in this as the quality of the picture appears to be very good already.

@Humus: my thoughts almost exactly.

 

[Brimstone]

Oooof, that still looks larger and heavier than many of the LCD based stereoscopic glasses I've used, and even those were a pain to use for prolonged periods of time.

IMO, HMD's and glasses are a dead end when it comes to mass consumer adoption. The experience can be compelling, but the discomfort and other potential issues become the overriding concerns over time.

Regards,
SB

I already wear a lot of gear on my head when I play online. In my experience headphones are better than regular speakers to hear the location of enemies. Just like all technologies, a visor with OLED will get lighter and more compact over time.

I'd like to see Sony return to its roots and have smooth CRT-like motion be a key feature. Have a hold time lower than 8.3ms. Try to achieve a 4ms hold time with each OLED panel. Of course also make sure the surround sound technology is good. Get a "Dolby Headphone" license if needed.

 

[eastmen]

I already wear a lot of gear on my head when I play online. In my experience headphones are better than regular speakers to hear the location of enemies. Just like all technologies, a visor with OLED will get lighter and more compact over time.

I'd like to see Sony return to its roots and have smooth CRT-like motion be a key feature. Have a hold time lower than 8.3ms. Try to achieve a 4ms hold time with each OLED panel. Of course also make sure the surround sound technology is good. Get a "Dolby Headphone" license if needed.

Is that really true , this thing looks like the old sega one back in the early days of the 16bit era . Thats what 15 years ago ?

My head phones haven't changed weight in a long time , they have gotten better but they are still heavy and after a long game sesion start to bother me. I can't imagine having head phones in this thing and then oled displays and the gear to keep it all together. I don't think it will get smaller , most of these things can't get smaller.

 

[tritosine5G]

apple hmd looks much more comfy, better yet it has no subpixels
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2008/04/laser-based-hmd-patented-by-apple/

 

[Brimstone]

Is that really true , this thing looks like the old sega one back in the early days of the 16bit era . Thats what 15 years ago ?

My head phones haven't changed weight in a long time , they have gotten better but they are still heavy and after a long game sesion start to bother me. I can't imagine having head phones in this thing and then oled displays and the gear to keep it all together. I don't think it will get smaller , most of these things can't get smaller.

If the weight of headphones bothers you...just stay away from HMDs.

OLED displays have the potential to be very thin and lightweight. Flapping in the wind thin...but that isn't going to happen anytime soon.

 

[DuckThor Evil]

Looks pretty cool, don't really see the connection to PS4 very valid though, other than it should work with it too...

 

[Brimstone]

Looks pretty cool, don't really see the connection to PS4 very valid though, other than it should work with it too...

Yes.

Samsung, which is investing heavily in OLED could probably make a similar visor as well, but they haven't shown off anything like it that I know of.

 

[deathindustrial]

So does no one on this board wear eye glasses? I have a hard enough time keeping one pair of glasses clean, now I gotta look after two?

=)

Glasses based 3D displays are basically a non-starter for a lot of the population I would think. Or are we expected to pay for prescription 3D glasses to get in on this tech?

Cheers

 

[Teasy]

Or you could just use contact lenses?

 

[eastmen]

If the weight of headphones bothers you...just stay away from HMDs.

OLED displays have the potential to be very thin and lightweight. Flapping in the wind thin...but that isn't going to happen anytime soon.

you still need all the head gear and electronics for it.

Teasy Or you could just use contact lenses?

paid 6,000 usd to never wear glasses or contacts again

 

[deathindustrial]

paid 6,000 usd to never wear glasses or contacts again

Off-topic but laser surgery does not stop normal eye deterioration. Depending on how old you are you may still end up needing glasses at some point. At least that is what I was told by the last optometrist I went to. The big change comes around 40 and is called "presbyopia" I believe.

Cheers

 

[MfA]

apple hmd looks much more comfy, better yet it has no subpixels
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2008/04/laser-based-hmd-patented-by-apple/

There are a couple things wrong with this ...

First with a (folded) wedge the image is generated at the exit plane (it's a diffuser). So basically you have a display screen right in front of your eyes, without any optics to create a virtual image farther away. This is no better than having an OLED screen directly in front of your eyes, not going to be lighter either. Secondly wedge optics were invented and patented by someone who now works for Microsoft, I seriously doubt Apple has the necessary licenses to make this.

Apple has become a huge patent troll ... no way they had anything resembling practical research for this.