European customs ordered to seize PlayStation shipments

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/feb/28/playstation-3-lg-legal-dispute

European customs officers have been ordered to seize shipments of Playstation 3s after LG won a preliminary injunction against Sony in an acrimonious patent battle between the two Asian electronics giants.

The ruling by the civil court of justice in the Hague means that all new PS3s have to be confiscated as they are imported into the UK and the rest of Europe for at least 10 days.

Tens of thousands of PS3s were seized by customs officers last week in the Netherlands, the Guardian has learnt, in a dispute that centres on Sony's allegedly infringing use of Blu-ray technology belonging to LG.

:oops:

Sony, which imports around 100,000 of the consoles a week, is frantically trying to get the ban lifted. The Japanese company has the right to appeal to the European patents office.

LG meanwhile, could apply to the same patents office to get the 10-day import ban extended. Alternatively, the Korean company could apply for a court order to get the consoles destroyed but it is highly unlikely the court would grant a request to eliminate the warehoused goods.

:D
 
In before the Sony press release stating European sales are so good there's no stock on shelves.
 
That's crazy. And to think that Sony brought it upon themselves if I remember correctly because they claim LG is using some of its own patents.

Maybe I'll buy a second PS3 tonight or tomorrow just to be sure. :p There's a Killzone 3 bundle for 299 with a 300GB hdd and I can easily sell the wrapped Killzone 3 to one of my friends/colleagues for 50 euro or so (heck for 40 euro it's still a decent deal).
 
If this only affects EU, people may still be able to grey-market err... actually it'll be more like black-market them from the US and Asia. Power conversion issues aside.
 
I don't think anyone will grey market a PS3 in order to get around a 10 day ban.
 
Besides it's just typical patent lawyer posturing. Sony sues LG over some patents so LG looks for some that they can dig up to sue Sony for as they both dance around and try to get the other to settle out of court for what they want.
 
The 10 day ban is for the selling of consoles to retail not to the end user. As the article states any stock that is already ordered by retailers before the ban is allowed through. Thus this ban shouldnt cause much of a shortage in 10days at all.

Worse comes to worse sony will likely just pay LG damages in the end, no way will they pull PS3 from the european market.
 
Except I doubt that is really what LG wants. LG likely just brought this up in hopes of either getting the other suit dropped all together or Sony's demands lowered. Otr access to something Sony doesn't want to give them.
 
Except I doubt that is really what LG wants. LG likely just brought this up in hopes of either getting the other suit dropped all together or Sony's demands lowered. Otr access to something Sony doesn't want to give them.

At a guess it might be that Sony is attempting to maintain a monopoly on BD pressing and LG is perhaps wanting to break that monopoly. I can't imagine much else Sony has that LG might want.

Or it's just as simple as the fact that Sony are infringing on patents that LG have recently (past 6-12 months) discovered Sony are infringing and they feel they are owed royalties on it. Negotiations about said patents are probably stalemated and LG finally decided that negotiations weren't going to accomplish anything and thus brought it to the courts.

There's also a few other scenarios I could think of that might trigger something like this. But there isn't enough information out to make any sort of call as to what it might actually be.

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SB
 
Patents suck the life out of innovation and vast amounts of money and energy are being wasted on them.
Money on defending them, money on trying to extort money of them, money on trying to avoid them and money on paying stupid amounts of license fees that isn´t warranted.

Innovation has a brake, it´s called patents.
 
Some guy at Ars Technica posted brief descriptions of the relevant patents, and they all sound like total bullshit and nothing that's innovative in any way shape or form, or worthy of patent protection.

All software patents need to simply be junked, because it's a load of horse hocky, all of it.
 
for the record,
Sony is also suing LG over phone patents
Motorola is suing MS over kinect
MS is suing Motorola over a variety of things
Paul Allen is suing everyone that makes a phone or an App that runs on a phone
Smartphone Technologies LLC is also suing almost all smartphone makers...

and tomorrow will be a day ending in the letter Y.

These companies sue each other all of the time, the only really interesting fact is that LG actually got an injunction.
 
So LG invented subtitles and filed a patent for it in 2005, and gets the patent granted in 2010, this is just ridickulous. :-/
Some of the patents were filed after PS3 came out aswell. :-/

LG's Complaint:
http://www.itcblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/LGbluray-complaint-4feb11.pdf

Patents:
Recording medium having data structure for managing reproduction of data streams
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=SHnOAAAAEBAJ&dq=7,701,835

Recording medium with a linking area thereon and apparatus and methods...
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=QdbJAAAAEBAJ&dq=7,577,080

Read-only recording medium and reproducing method thereof
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=8mbVAAAAEBAJ&dq=7,619,961

Recording medium and method and apparatus for reproducing text subtitle stream for updating...
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=5xXSAAAAEBAJ&dq=7,756,398
 
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http://www.vg247.com/2011/03/10/court-lifts-lg’s-injunction-against-sony-300000-ps3s-set-free/

Sony appealed the customs blockade, and the court has now lifted the injunction with no more seizures to be applied. LG has also been ordered to pay Sony’s €130,000 in legal fees with an additional €200,000 to be added for each day it fails to pony up the dough.

FOSS Patents owner Florian Mueller said: “If this is true, it is only related to the prejudgment seizure order. This means Sony can resume the distribution of PlayStations across Europe for now, but there will be a full-fledged legal proceeding to determine whether there is an infringement – and if so, how much Sony owes LG for it.”
 
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