Eidos: Bye bye GC, you won't be missed

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Qroach:

> how about they remove you instead?

No grounds for that.

>What are you calling vince a troll for?

His deliberately inflammatory lie.
 
Either get along or I will start deleteing posts that are attacking other members. I've done it in another thread . I will do it in this one.
 
If you have to delete anything then how about deleting inflamatory lies instead?, like the one Cybamerc highlighted earlier.
 
cybamerc said:
His deliberately inflammatory lie.

Um, being a "lie" necessitates that it's "deliberate." And you're talking shit to Johnny? You're a joke.

Also, what did I lie about? You call me a troll, but your post offers no antithesis or counter-points to mine. By very definition you are a troll. Oh yes you are you insightful demigod with profound wisdom and linguistic skills that would make Prodicus jealous.

How about we get some moderators that cull direct responces to posts that don't offer any affirmative evidentiary support or counter-points rooted in documented evidence? Instead of feeble threats to "get along." What's next, group hugs?

As for Cybermerc, why don't you just repeat what you did in the PS2 malfunction thread when someone called you on your bullshit and shut up.
 
Um, being a "lie" necessitates that it's "deliberate." And you're talking shit to Johnny? You're a joke.

He said deliberately inflammatory lie. As in the inflammatory nature of the lie was deliberate.

Also, what did I lie about?

You said that Nintendo had a complete lack of 3rd party support.
 
Teasy said:
You said that Nintendo had a complete lack of 3rd party support, that's a lie.

Ah yes, how about you actual read what I wrote before jumping on the Cybermerc bandwagon of flame:

Vince said:
Or their complete lack of 3rd party support to stabilize this deficit? Hell, the loss of even that small proportionality of developers to competing platforms?

Lets actually read this, shall we?

Complete lack of 3rd party support to stabilize the deficit? This is true, unless you can show me how GameCube is (on average) outselling PS2 and XBox in 3rd party softsales. This is a nonissue actually - Nintendo relies on their firstparties; they're failing as per historical levels. There is no 3rd party to make up for this. Hell, how many companies have shrugged off Nintendo now?

If you really want to get into this, we can bust out the 3rd party percentages per corperate entity and per absolute sales. It won't be pretty for Nintendo, as you well know.

He said deliberately inflammatory lie. Meaning that the inflammatory nature of the lie was deliberate

Would a lie be anything but? The purpose is to deceive you know.
 
Sheesh, those guys stick to gether like glue. Vince hasn't told any sort of lie! you guys just can't deal with the truth as has been displayed on almost every occasion...
 
Yeah. It won't be long before EA drops almost all of their Cube development IMO. They'll probably still put out Harry Potter and a few games of that nature, but I can't see them continuing to support such poor sales.

My answers are succinct for a reason: I've said just about everything that needs to be said on this issue here in this forum about 9 months ago. Recent events are merely confirming my earlier concerns about the Gamecube's long term viability.

Gamecube = Dreamcast w/EA support.

I mean Crazy Taxi on Dreamcast (arcade port) sold better than Metroid Prime on the Cube. What's up with that? Dreamcast installed base was similar to the Gamecube's in the US at this point in the lifecycle etc...

The GBA is the only thing keeping the Cube alive at this point. The days of Nintendo getting away with only bringing out 4 great titles per year are over I'm afraid. Zelda, F-Zero and Mario Kart aren't cutting it this year and that's hardly surprising really.
 
wazoo said:
No way. The ps1 had its strongest years after the ps2 unveiling (not launch). Announcing the ps3 will only push the ps2 even more. Frightening they already sold >50M and they are not even at 99$.

Hrm... True. And looking at the PS1 library growth on the chart just posted, it may keep going for quite some time too. o_O That's almost scary. Since Xbox and GC launched it looks like it's gone up 3/4 of what they have? Um... What's going on there? Heh...

Still, I don't expect to see the Xbox and GC accelerating during that period unless the PS3 is a no-show (or at least highly unimpressive) or they bring out something notable alongside. (And confirm backwards compatability, which is probably one thing that kept the PS1 bumping along well--there's no loss in game-buying, and may even be benefits later on.)

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Meanwhile, on the squabbling, seriously people stop stroking egos (yours or other people), stop knee-jerk reacting with taunts or invective, and SERIOUSLY stop telling the mods how to do their job! Enough with the fucking "ban this guy/ban that guy" already! The reactions seem to do MUCH more damage than the "instigations" themselves.

The utterly useless posting has MOST DEFINITELY come from both sides of the fence. Seriously, if one has nothing better to do than ego-stoke, snipe, curse, whine, and bring up absolutely NOTHING of relevance to the thread, I think I speak for quite a lot here by saying "Shut. The. Hell. Up."

It's getting hard to hear anything over the din.
 
OK OK Vince, 2 points :
1) If you stop and look at "real" stats (for example the one posted by Magnum Pi), you see the evidence that Xbox is not in any better situation than GCN about Software library.

2) about third party support : when i go to my software vendor and look at what is sold on GCN, i have the feeling that most of the "best" cross-platform titles are there.
IMO, i don't care if F1 2028 is on Xbox but not on GCN.
I do prefer seeing title like SC2, LOR, etc.

Frankly, does GCN lack many of the "good" crossplatform titles ??

PS : when i see charts like the one i mentioned, i think it is a rocket in the foot of the ones who argue since more than a year that GCN lacks 3rd party support ... 8) 8) 8)
 
LOL :) Johnny... let's bet on GC's death this holiday shall we?
If it get's "murdered" I'll put Xbox's logo as an avatar, if not you'll put NGC's, how about that! That'd be fun...
 
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