EA sales break down by platform
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I was pointing towards consumer related information.
That was my second point in the last post.
tongue_of_colicab
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Alot, probably. keep in mind that it doesnt cost nearly as much to make a mobile phone game as it will cost you to make a ps3 game or even a DS game. But the potential userbase is gigantic and the games are easy to get as all you have to do is send a text message and your done.
tongue_of_colicab
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Well given the quality of the titels (ps2 versions with wii controlls tacked on for better or worse depending on the game) I dont think its that bad. The probably bairly spend any money on the games so its almost like getting money for free. Maybe marketing also plays a role? besides one or two boogie commercials I never really seen a EA wii commercial.
I don't understand why you're throwing these negative points out there Nesh.
- So the 360 isn't necessarily the most profitable - or even profitable at all - even though the combined revenue of all other platforms is less than the 360?
- Wii is 3rd biggest platform for EA now. Should these figures be disappointing just because proportional sales are much less than the 360s? In which case, they must be executing the PS2 department!
So, the 360 is a failure in EA's point of view?
PS2 installed base is huge, so PS2 is a failure, too.
Sony said PS3 will sell itself without the need of software, maybe EA can stop producing software for PS3.
Anyone can make utter useless points, just like mine.
No not really... Firstly user base is irrelevant, the assertion people like you make is that third party games don't sell well on Wii. Hence they aren't worth releasing on Wii. It matters not a jot to a developer how many of there games each user buys, all that matters is how many they sell on each system. Right now EA make over three times as much money selling there games on Wii then on PS3 (despite PS3 having more EA games available), Wii is EA's third biggest market ATM just behind PS2.
Secondly even if you look at this per user Wii is still doing well. Considering less EA games were actually available to buy for Wii then either 360 or PS3 and the relevant user base differences (relevant meaning not including Japan). Its not doing quite as well as 360, but much better then PS3.
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Well it doesn't tell you that the wii titles have been profitable either they could have in fact lost more money on the wii than all other platforms combined, unlikely but we just don't have that data (cost by platform). It just gives you an idea of how many games they sold. With 4 titles (released in that timeframe) for the wii, we can guess that the average title for wii is selling about 300k copies or a bit less. Making the same guess at MS platform numbers puts us at 600k copies per game or a bit more.
The only thing we can really say is that 360 owners buy more titles than wii owners by about 2:1. Some are going to say that means the wii is doing bad, others will just say the 360 is doing well. Right now only EA bean counters would really know for sure where they will look to move their dollars.
Actually Wii is the 4th biggest platform as the PC sales were slightly ahead of the PS2 sales (79million I believe).
No no you got me wrong. I was pointing towards the fact that some other platforms such as the handheld market allthough they show much much lower revenues in comparison they may actually be incomparable with console performance. They are sold at lower prices(show less revenues) and at the same time have lower costs. 360 most likely is the most profitable of all the consoles excluding handhelds, mobiles and PCs. Which is a good thing for the 360. I just dont see the point of putting all formats together and we lack other information as to how much more profitable a platform is to another. We just see revenues. What are consumer peferences(units) and how much are the costs if we want to talk about profitability?
As for Wii, it has nothing to do with profitability. Taking into consideration the installbase of the console which is around as much as the 360's. and slightly cheaper, revenues generated are too low compared to 360's. This brings back suspion again that the third party franchises we are familiar with, may not sell as much on Wii. The preferences of Wii owners are probably a lot different than those we were familiar with in previous generations. There are probably other types of games they keep their eyes on. These numbers dont tell me at all what Teasy is suggesting
I need more information in order to talk about specific things and jump to conclusions, and I think we all lack the information to go specific
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This table is of net revenues.
That's what the label says. Given the market breakdowns, it suggests far lower production costs for Wii and far higher profits per unit sold.
How can this have nothing to do with profitability? Do you think that EA care more about how many games they sell per console owner, or how much profit they make per console?
Also how do you explain Wii doing much better then PS3 even on a per user basis? PS3 owners disliking traditional third party games even more then Wii owners would seem to be the only explanation going by your reasoning..
BTW I was suggesting that third party developers/publishers clearly can make good money selling there games on Wii. If this data doesn't tell you the same thing then I just don't know what to say.
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*cough* BioWare/Pandemic *cough*
edit: I was kidding btw. It depends on the definition of "Net Revenue". In the US, it would be net profit before taxes and dividends to shareholders, overhead i.e. development costs... a bunch of things not mentioned in the revenue part really.
It's worth noting that they are deferring some of that net revenue from this quarter.
Here's some more info:
http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/n...nces-reorganization--potential-layoffs/18387/
The figures are all in the SEC filing on the first page!
