Does anyone think PS3 will support VGA?

Guden Oden

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There's been mucho hoo-haah about the dual HDMI jacks, but what about good ol' crappy VGA? I've not seen anything in official specs. Seems PS3 will use the same multi-out as even the original PS used, so limited VGA support would be possible (screen need to be compatible with synch on green, which not all units are).
 
on the other side. it uses standart DVI ports on the back no? i presume plugging in a dvi > VGA convertor would work?
dchp is only needed for bleuray copy protection only I presume...
but i presume a lot ;)
 
I hope they use VGA. It's so universal, and I personally don't see ANY difference between VGA, DVI and HDMI.
 
Guden Oden said:
There's been mucho hoo-haah about the dual HDMI jacks, but what about good ol' crappy VGA? I've not seen anything in official specs. Seems PS3 will use the same multi-out as even the original PS used, so limited VGA support would be possible (screen need to be compatible with synch on green, which not all units are).

:oops: GUDEN'S BEEN POSSESSED BY CHAP!!!

Anyway, you don't need a synch-on-green monitor with PS2 if you have the Blaze VGA cable.

Don't know, VGA would be quite easy to support from the analog port - just like it was on PS2 - so i expect a third party to take care of it if Sony don't support it directly.

DVI will be supported logically.
 
BenQ said:
I hope they use VGA. It's so universal, and I personally don't see ANY difference between VGA, DVI and HDMI.

It largely depends on the display and how "friendly" they are with either input. One display might produce a better image with HDMI (and it should, in theory) and the same level of image with VGA, but the market is so saturated with different brands and models that it's impossible to pin point various trends.

HDMI should really give better results. You don't see a difference between DVI and HDMI because they're essentially the same thing.
 
BenQ said:
Does anyone know how HDMI is used for copyright protection? I don't get it.

What u mean how it's used?

HDMI has HDCP included, so any signal going through HDMI has copy protection.

DVI can either have it or not, and in case it does, it's always specified.
 
london-boy said:
BenQ said:
Does anyone know how HDMI is used for copyright protection? I don't get it.

What u mean how it's used?

HDMI has HDCP included, so any signal going through HDMI has copy protection.

DVI can either have it or not, and in case it does, it's always specified.

What I mean is, I don't understand how HDMI protects anything.
 
london-boy said:
:oops: GUDEN'S BEEN POSSESSED BY CHAP!!!
Hehehe!

Anyway, you don't need a synch-on-green monitor with PS2 if you have the Blaze VGA cable.
That's interesting to know! I have to assume that cable contains some sort of circuitry to extract the synch signals from the green channel so they can be fed to the appropriate pins in the VGA connector...

VGA would be quite easy to support from the analog port - just like it was on PS2 - so i expect a third party to take care of it if Sony don't support it directly.
Well, PS2 doesn't really support it at the software end, so unless sony allows the video hardware to be programmed by games to send a VGA signal out through the analog port there's going to be a lot of gnashing of teeth... But I really hope they'll go for this. After all, lots more people have VGA ports on their monitors than DVI/HDCP or HDMI...

I'd prefer hooking the PS3 up to my PC LCD monitor through VGA so I can use my 8" sub Logitech Z680s for sound rather than hook it up through DVI/HDCP to my new TV and my much smaller and weaker 6" sub Sony surround system. One has to play pretty friggin loud to overpower the Logitech sub, I love it. My ears hurt and my apartement rattles both here and there before the bass itself starts to sound bad. :) Would be a perfect match for teh Sony! :D
 
Here's a question. Will the HD resolutions on say my 19" monitor be just as good through VGA as it is on a regular HDTV?
 
since the pixels are bigger on a regular hdtv i would presume it would be sharper on a 19inc lcd screen (or crt )
 
One reason to support VGA is the first reasonably priced 1080p HDTV's (the new Samsung DLP's, HLRxxx8) only get 60Hz at 1920x1080 through the VGA connector.

The current HDMI receiver chips can't really handle 60Hz 1080p - only the very highest grade, from what I hear at AVSforum.

Not to mention CRT computer monitors have very high resolution, providing a low cost, high quality alternative to HDTV's.
 
hello.... this is one interesting topic.
i will use this thread to ask a question...

Can one use HDTV modes in a CRT?

...if not, what resolution i would get if i was to use Ps3/x360 on my CRT monitor? (i have sync-on-green)

thanks in advance
 
dskneo said:
Can one use HDTV modes in a CRT?
Yes, of course you can, though if it isn't a 16:9 aspect ratio CRT screen, it'll give a picture that's squashed horizontally (circles look like ovals etc).

...if not, what resolution i would get if i was to use Ps3/x360 on my CRT monitor? (i have sync-on-green)
That isn't currently known at the moment. I would think x360 supports VGA since it supports component video for HDTV modes, and component is more or less RGB with synch-on-green with a twist from what I undestand (three wires is all that's needed). However, it might not support RGB too, and then you would need an external transcoder to change from component to RGB VGA. In that case, you'd get the same reses in VGA that you'd get otherwise, assuming your transcoder could handle the neccessary synchrates. I'd think a 1080P 60Hz transcoder might be a tad expensive. :p
 
Mintmaster said:
One reason to support VGA is the first reasonably priced 1080p HDTV's (the new Samsung DLP's, HLRxxx8) only get 60Hz at 1920x1080 through the VGA connector.

The current HDMI receiver chips can't really handle 60Hz 1080p - only the very highest grade, from what I hear at AVSforum.
I've heard this before, but it just seems strange to me when a singular single link DVI interface is able to transmit 1920x1200 (maybe higher) signals at 60Hz (maybe higher). Does HDMI have the same pincount as DVI, but with some pins alloted for audio?
 
Guden Oden said:
dskneo said:
Can one use HDTV modes in a CRT?
Yes, of course you can, though if it isn't a 16:9 aspect ratio CRT screen, it'll give a picture that's squashed horizontally (circles look like ovals etc).

i see, a streched image.....
i have that if i apply 720p mode in my ATI 9800 display properties (but the monitor menu says 1024x728.. so i dont think its actually at 720p).

i thought if i try to play a console game at 720p in my monitor, it would show 16:9 black boxes on top and bottom. i guess not...

thanks
 
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