Dispatches From the Console Wars

[scooby_dooby]

lol, it's not my fault you mis-interpreted my post, my original point has not changed. I'm not looking for 'typical', I'm talking about the actual numbers sold every month.

What I said was "MS should sell 300k+ PER month", if you take that literally it means exactly what it says, that every month they should be aiming to sell 300,000 or more, you assumed I was talking about an average over 12months, which I wasn't.

300k/month is certaily doable if you include holiday months and average it out, hell they're probably sell that much this year! Some simple logic should've told you that I wasn't referring to the average.

 

[dobwal]

lol, it's not my fault you mis-interpreted my post, my original point has not changed. I'm not looking for 'typical', I'm talking about the actual numbers sold every month.

What I said was "MS should sell 300k+ PER month", if you take that literally it means exactly what it says, that every month they should be aiming to sell 300,000 or more, you assumed I was talking about an average over 12months, which I wasn't.
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You are arguing semantics.

There is nothing "actual" about the numbers youre stating because you would have to state exact figures and not ranges of 200-250k or 300K+.

If I ask you, "how tall are you actually?". Saying, "oh, I'm three foot plus" or "oh, I'm 5'4 to 5'11" would not denote an actual height.

300k/month is certaily doable if you include holiday months and average it out, hell they're probably sell that much this year! Some simple logic should've told you that I wasn't referring to the average.

Simple logic states that "300k+ / month this year" means you were talking all 12 months which includes the holiday season. Even if you don't look at it as an average, it still doesn't make my statement less relevant because "300k+ / month this year" still encompasses 3.6 million total of 2007 which I stated that the 360 could possibly do at the 299/399 price point.

But like I stated before under your exact definition, at the 350/250 price point the 300K+ figure seems likely with the 360 pushing ~6 million in the US alone.

 

[scooby_dooby]

You are arguing semantics.

ME!!?

Haha, that's rich. I'm explaining what my original point was, and you are trying to correct my grammer...and I'm arguing semantics??

Anyways, I've already explained what I mean in very simple terms, if you don't get it now, you probably won't (which I think you do, you just like to argue). When I said they were selling 50k/week currently did you also think I was referring to the average? Use your head man...

Maybe I can put this simpler, MS should be aiming to be selling 300+k in the non-holiday months, and they won't do that at the current pricepoint.

 

[dobwal]

When I said they were selling 50k/week currently did you also think I was referring to the average? Use your head man...

did you not read my posts. response to your 50k/week post

Simple, you're just looking at the typical slow months for consoles. Im looking at a monthly average over the whole calender year. 300K a month equals 3.6 million over 12 months.

Maybe I can put this simpler, MS should be aiming to be selling 300+k in the non-holiday months, and they won't do that at the current pricepoint.

two posts up

But like I stated before under your exact definition, at the 350/250 price point the 300K+ figure seems likely with the 360 pushing ~6 million in the US alone.

You don't need to state things simpler you need to state them correctly.

 

[scooby_dooby]

It was stated correctly, if you take my statement literally it means exactly what it says, and says absolutely nothing about averages. If you weren't being so damned obtuse...

This is like talking to a brick wall, have a good one, you've successfully ruined any decent conversation that might have happened in this thread.

Later.

 

[RancidLunchmeat]

Dobwal, you're not doing yourself any favors.

Clearly, Scoob's entire argument/discussion/purpose would make absolutely no sense if he were refering to averages.

It was very clear that he was referring to actual numbers. MS needs to be/should be aiming for 300k units PER MONTH, not including the boost gained from holiday sales.

The holiday sales season is irrelevant for this discussion, because all consoles always get a bump in sales (as long as they aren't supply limited).

This is (was?) a discussion about demand and therefore it makes far more sense to discuss the ten months of the year that normal market conditions impact demand, rather than the two months of the year that possess a completely different set of dynamics.

It had the potential to be an interesting discussion before you failed to comprehend his discourse and then proceeded to argue that you knew what he meant better than he actually does himself.

 

[dobwal]

I know exactly what scooby is talking about and I've already made a comment using the interpretation that intended by him of his first post.

He made a comment about the target. I made a comment about his target that I felt it was too low when including holiday months. He commented that he didn't intend his post to be interpreted that way. I basically argue that his first post made it difficult to interpreted his "300K+ per month this year" to mean "300K+ per month this year minus nov and dec". He comment "no it isn't" and I comment, "yes it did", but actually recorrected my post to reflect his exact interpretation. What you see is two poster stubborn enough to carry a debate off on a tangent.

I have much respect for scooby and actually agree with him based on the way he meant the post to be interpreted.