It's a lot easier to nerf a few OP guns then to buff everything else. Fusions are very hard to use, the charge time and spread makes them a very skilled (or lucky) kill. And when they don't one hit kill it typically means death to the shooter unless they can whip out a grenade or swap to primary, both of which take too long for typical encounters.
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It's out!
Got a Zen Meteor and Universal Remote out of the three weapon engrams I had, nice.
Got from 313 to 319 last night. The path to 335 isn't as easy as they say, like the CoO will drop an artifact near your light, not 335 unless you are near there. The level 41 PoE has garbage drops so far. NF is 320 light, but I'm not sure how hard it is yet. Lots of new stuff to do, I'm happy so far.
Got a Zen Meteor and Universal Remote out of the three weapon engrams I had, nice.
Got from 313 to 319 last night. The path to 335 isn't as easy as they say, like the CoO will drop an artifact near your light, not 335 unless you are near there. The level 41 PoE has garbage drops so far. NF is 320 light, but I'm not sure how hard it is yet. Lots of new stuff to do, I'm happy so far.
Yeah, I worry as usual the game is just too easy. I'm awash in every resource and glimmer.
The new loot system is loot drops within 5 light above you. So I guess there's no way to NOT reach 335 eventually if I understand correctly.
Mida still seems highly effective in crucible despite losing HCR (which some past YT tests have implied has no obvious effect). I tried Suros for 5 minutes, it seems like hot garbage.
We'll have to wait but basically everything was still nerfed (besides high impact AR's/Pulses, both of which still seem garbage) so I dont see a contender to Mida (for scrubs like me anyway).
The new loot system is loot drops within 5 light above you. So I guess there's no way to NOT reach 335 eventually if I understand correctly.
Mida still seems highly effective in crucible despite losing HCR (which some past YT tests have implied has no obvious effect). I tried Suros for 5 minutes, it seems like hot garbage.
We'll have to wait but basically everything was still nerfed (besides high impact AR's/Pulses, both of which still seem garbage) so I dont see a contender to Mida (for scrubs like me anyway).
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RenegadeRocks
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this update has me interested as this means I don't have to play Kings Fall.
What Matchmade activity can I play to be on my road to 335 now? Cos, though I asked, my friends are not coming back to Destiny, so its matchmaking or nothing for me. This is where I like Division a LOT. There is no barrier at all. Play what u want, when u want.
What Matchmade activity can I play to be on my road to 335 now? Cos, though I asked, my friends are not coming back to Destiny, so its matchmaking or nothing for me. This is where I like Division a LOT. There is no barrier at all. Play what u want, when u want.
The new prison of elders drops higher light blues.
uhh, everything I see says Division endgame is completely impossible to solo (and boring as hell anyway, bullet sponge etc, I certainly found the beta that way) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1207576
I dont know what matchmade drops 335, Iron Banner I guess? Oh, and strike specific drops can go up to 335. But those seem few and far between to me and wont cover every item (for example, no helmets etc that I know of). Faction packages are totally solo and can drop up to 330. Oh, and I just forgot, you ought to able to use 3oC to get all the way to 335 via infusing with those exotics.
Nightfall, POE42, and Kings Fall arent matchmade.
Nightfall to me is basically matchmade, if I dont feel like talking (usually) I just post on LFG "330 hunter, no mic, invite me" or something and wait for invites. POE42 is brain dead also (super easy) and 3 man so it's easier to group for.
Seems like hitting 335 will be REALLY easy, I mean it might take 3-4 weeks, but it seems completely inevitable.
For anybody that doesn't know, the new loot system looks at your level at the time of the drop (whatever it may be) and gives you in a range up to 5 above your light. So, if I'm 325 and it gives me gauntlets, they will drop 325-330. And so on. Challenge mode in the raid can make that spread 10. So it could be 325-335 in challenge mode. Same applies to faction packages, exotics engrams or anything else. Except legendary engrams are capped at 310.
So far, it really seems to make things inexorable. Not sure how it works >330 (are drops still in 330-335 range, or can they only drop equal or higher than your light?)
I ran my first raid tonight post update, was 325 going in came out 328. Seems like helmet will be a sore spot, mines 320. But then, exotics...cant believe I forgot to stock up on 3oc's last week
Basically Bungie giving out light like it's candy.
How the heck can I play the retcon "taken captain" strike?
Im curious what ghost will say.
Sometime like "didn't we killed him thousands of time just yesterday?"
Im curious what ghost will say.
Sometime like "didn't we killed him thousands of time just yesterday?"
RenegadeRocks
Legend
I was praising the fact that u can matchmake for everything.( No point in going solo) . Going through LFG puts me off, Division is as easy as pressing Matchmake and counting to 10. And it is as bullet spongy as any other game, Archon Priest doesn't really die with a headshot, nor does any boss in any game. Its the same in all games, this game asks you to keep changing positions and use suppression, consumables and stun effects wisely to kill a boss. If you don't do that and just keep shooting at it, it is bound to feel dumb.The game is fun if u "play" with it. If you just shoot, then u take the most unoptimal route.
As for the beta, yeah, I too was bored in the beta, but the full game is fantastic, for me.
RenegadeRocks
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Will try it out. Is that the only option for PvE players?
I heard the matchmaking is worthless higher up, the groups usually quit or kick you at the end.
By all accounts going solo for endgame is a nightmare in The Division, sounds worse than Destiny to solo play. One of my big disappointments about the game, I was hoping it would be solo friendly.
Do they have matchmaking for the new wannabe raid "incursion"? Anyways even if they do, I bet it's totally unviable.
I'd say if you're so against very simple LFG for 3 endgame activities you dont really want to try to play the game.
I get raid trepidation though, raid is a different, sometimes stressful beast.
Anyways I answered your question, you can solo to 335 using exotics infusion and 3 of coins. For truly solo only, I guess you could supplement this with faction packages (will help you get to 330) and farming strike specific gear (would be fairly painstaking IMO, but then again you're farming 3oC anyway). Honestly the best way to 3oc farm would probably be crucible. Strange coins might be a bottleneck for someone who's not longtime endgame and has 300+ like me, I'm not sure.
Excited to play again today! Will move all my gear over to my other hunter and do everything on him.
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RenegadeRocks
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LFG groups do the same most of the time. Have had full nights of people cribbing and bitching in Kings fall. Atleast matchmaking is quicker than finding an LFG group and happens within the game, without the use of any other device. and it is much quicker to get into another group.
....and if I want matchmaking inside a game I definitely want to play it. Its the thing stopping me from playing it right now, like I said in my post.
Yes, Division is no fun solo, one needs to distract and flank the enemy......and INcursions have matchmaking. Everything has matchmaking in Division, its the smoothest implementation of online amongst all recent games.
....and if I want matchmaking inside a game I definitely want to play it. Its the thing stopping me from playing it right now, like I said in my post.
Yes, Division is no fun solo, one needs to distract and flank the enemy......and INcursions have matchmaking. Everything has matchmaking in Division, its the smoothest implementation of online amongst all recent games.
Err, LFG groups pretty much never kick. Unless you are really bad and are causing a lot of wipes, and even then some wont. I'm a below average player and dont get kicked. I learned the hard raid from scratch and SUCKED...and I lived. Wont say it was always fun...
If you get in an obviously bad group, pick up on it early and leave! No sense wasting time.
About Incursion matchmaking my point is I am guessing you cannot actually use it. You have to go in with a pre-made group to have any chance of success.
That's always been Bungie's argument against matchmaking for raid/nightfall, it would be a problem for highest endgame activities. Sounds to me like maybe the Division is proving them somewhat right.
I wouldn't mind if Bungie made "matchmade everything", but it's not a huge deal. POE42 could use to be matchmade as well because it's so easy. Yeah, Bungie could be a little more aggressive on the matchmaking at least (NF could probably be matchmade just fine, and POE42, only raid not).
If you get in an obviously bad group, pick up on it early and leave! No sense wasting time.
About Incursion matchmaking my point is I am guessing you cannot actually use it. You have to go in with a pre-made group to have any chance of success.
That's always been Bungie's argument against matchmaking for raid/nightfall, it would be a problem for highest endgame activities. Sounds to me like maybe the Division is proving them somewhat right.
I wouldn't mind if Bungie made "matchmade everything", but it's not a huge deal. POE42 could use to be matchmade as well because it's so easy. Yeah, Bungie could be a little more aggressive on the matchmaking at least (NF could probably be matchmade just fine, and POE42, only raid not).
with April Update, bungie basically has thrown logic away
"logic is a dead weight in this world full of space magic" - bungie (i imagined)
even their own story betrays their own game lore-logic. **wink-wink** the taken archon priest **wink-wink**
RenegadeRocks
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LFG isn't made of some magical ppl, its just like matchmaking. Its a band of randoms.I was never kicked either but did leave many a group after wasting nights because of one or two weirdos who have no patience and won't leave either. At least with matchmaking the process is faster and easier. And honestly, if one is of the kind who cannot play with randoms then don't use matchmaking ! The option provides a very good way to jhump into any activity, conquer it and make friends too while at it. Having matchmaking doesn't break the game, optimal experience is always going to be with friends but I have had ton of fun playing all missions in DIvision with randoms ! Would have been impossible in Destiny.
and the fact that LFG exists shows that people need matchmaking, cos that is what LFG is for ! -_-
Honestly, except for raids and Trials, all activites can be played with randoms. ANd after like a month of the raid been out, even that can be played with randoms because everyone knows what to do. In any case, we are still playing with randoms from LFG.
its a dead argument, matchmaking only makes it easier to pay whenever u want and have a quick session. LFG is active only because the game doesn't do it for u. It may not help Bungie's business vision, but it helps gamers.
RenegadeRocks
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BTW, played a heroic strike and got a 306 Helmet and a 308 AR ! I was 299 and reached 300 with it. Thats the only matchmade activity I can play , honestly, so hoping this is not a one off case and such drops continue.
Edit: Oops, forgot about POE. Gotta play that, thats matchmade too.
Edit: Oops, forgot about POE. Gotta play that, thats matchmade too.
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You're just being weird, considering automated LFG sites are essentially matchmaking. I dont why it makes it "ok" if you were matchmade with crap teammates. But not OK if you are LFG'ed with them?
Anyways I still disagree, I dont play the Division but from everything I can tell and have read or watched videos, matchmaking is a disaster in the Division endgame, and you cannot use it effectively. Your team will be useless and they will usually either quit or boot you at the end. So I dont get why you keep holding it up as a good thing. You: "Division has matchmaking for endgame activities" Me: "Yeah, technically, but it's effectively useless so it's no big advantage..."
In Destiny the main difference is NOBODY uses mics in matchmade activities, whereas mics are standard fare in LFG activities (although you can and I often do opt to not use a mic in easier LFG activities). Not sure why that's the dividing line for mic usage, but it is.
But I agree with you basically after all that. Bungie should matchmake everything short of the Raid, and POSSIBLY even the raid. Like you said, maybe matchmade raid after 2-3 months or something? I would have to see it in practice to see how I liked it though. POE42 looks like a big one that really is too easy to not have matchmaking.
Just unlike you I realize with automated LFG sites it basically IS matchmaking. I dont draw some arbitrary line and refuse to cross it (LFG is really easy, and they have it for all MMO's for a reason...).
Anyways I still disagree, I dont play the Division but from everything I can tell and have read or watched videos, matchmaking is a disaster in the Division endgame, and you cannot use it effectively. Your team will be useless and they will usually either quit or boot you at the end. So I dont get why you keep holding it up as a good thing. You: "Division has matchmaking for endgame activities" Me: "Yeah, technically, but it's effectively useless so it's no big advantage..."
In Destiny the main difference is NOBODY uses mics in matchmade activities, whereas mics are standard fare in LFG activities (although you can and I often do opt to not use a mic in easier LFG activities). Not sure why that's the dividing line for mic usage, but it is.
But I agree with you basically after all that. Bungie should matchmake everything short of the Raid, and POSSIBLY even the raid. Like you said, maybe matchmade raid after 2-3 months or something? I would have to see it in practice to see how I liked it though. POE42 looks like a big one that really is too easy to not have matchmaking.
Just unlike you I realize with automated LFG sites it basically IS matchmaking. I dont draw some arbitrary line and refuse to cross it (LFG is really easy, and they have it for all MMO's for a reason...).
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Equip your best stuff, play the highest level strike playlists you can, you'll advance. Work toward faction packages. Buy 3oC if you can and use them.
Just remember whenever you are about to receive a reward package or decrypt an exotic engram, equip your highest light gear since it affects your drop.
RenegadeRocks
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Ok.
YEah, been doing that since TTK arrived, so know those tips. Was a regular player before, not so long ago !
@orangpelupa : nightfall someday? Just to see the drops
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