DC Comics or Marvel?

[London Geezer]

It's by far the best series Japan has ever made.

Methinks you haven't actually watched all that much.

i LOVED it!!!!!! And yes, i've read a lot, my family used to own a bookshop, so i used to read every comic at the time FOR FREE

It's just my favourite... Not sure why, it just stuck to my heart... Seen how bloody Dragonball got all the attention it got, i'm surprised SS never did... I mean, i read all of DB too and loved it, but i'm kinda over it now... Always preferred Dragon Quest to it...

But yeah, i can say i read pretty everything that ever got released (in Italy at least) in the 80s-early90s...

That's why i made this thread

 

[Gubbi]

2000AD: Judge Dredd has any DC or Marvel comic licked.

As for manga: Only good one I've ever read is Akira (you suddenly realise where Valve got half their art work inspiration from for Halflife).

Cheers
Gubbi

 

[London Geezer]

2000AD: Judge Dredd has any DC or Marvel comic licked.

As for manga: Only good one I've ever read is Akira (you suddenly realise where Valve got half their art work inspiration from for Halflife).

Cheers
Gubbi

I only ever saw the Anime movie adaptation of Akira... pretty cool, VERY long tho! Does the manga go more in depth? Or follow the story? cause i was left i bit "and now what" at the end, as it usually happens with all Anime... Especially Ghost in the Shell... BEAUTIFUL but just somewhat "incomplete" for me..

 

[cthellis42]

i LOVED it!!!!!! And yes, i've read a lot, my family used to own a bookshop, so i used to read every comic at the time FOR FREE

Right, but "at the time" there wasn't much out there. (Try going to even your typical mall bookstore now and looking at the manga sections they have.) And amusingly, Akira WAS one of the big manga available early on, and it was absolutely enormous. Marvel's Epic branch released them early on in comic and graphic novel form, and Dark Horse has it now, releasing 6 large graphic novels a few years back--which is generally what you'll find on shelves now if anything. So yes, the manga was MUCH more in-depth. (As is the case with most manga, especially Masamune Shirow--Appleseed and GitS (but less so) pale in comparison to their manga form. Shirow is very wordy and cerebral, though, so he's hard to recreate in anime form. There are TONS of anime that abuse their source material, though; any single movie made off a series is bound to be bad in comparison. Even Miyazaki doesn't come off unscathed.

 

[jvd]

magna was never interesting. It pales in comparison to dc . Dark knight returns , kingdom come , knight fall , emerald twilight. All much better than any magna i read.

 

[cthellis42]

Then read more. One can easily pluck out prime examples from any "type" and challenge against what one's had read, since the breadth is likely much shallower. I can easily grab from Marvel and Image and many independants to outpace "what I've read" from DC, because my experience is none too mighty. (And being the only real comic collector of my friends, I couldn't borrow others' to catch up.)

Considering your mentions, I'd say if you should definitely read Lone Wolf and Cub (I have the original releases, the first dozen having introductions by Frank Miller who positively glows about it), Blade of the Immoral, and Sanctuary. (Less so Battle Angel Alita, but you might still like its tone and art stylings.) I could name a bunch more, but I'm trying to stick with things you might actually be able to find and read at a Barnes and Noble or the like.

You have to wade through lots and LOTS of crap to find the gems in american comics. Manga is MUCH bigger and MUCH broader, and though we've picked up steam in recent years we still miss quite a lot of it. A general dismissal is entirely foolish.

When in doubt, read more.

 

[jvd]

Then read more. One can easily pluck out prime examples from any "type" and challenge against what one's had read, since the breadth is likely much shallower. I can easily grab from Marvel and Image and many independants to outpace "what I've read" from DC, because my experience is none too mighty. (And being the only real comic collector of my friends, I couldn't borrow others' to catch up.)

Considering your mentions, I'd say if you should definitely read Lone Wolf and Cub (I have the original releases, the first dozen having introductions by Frank Miller who positively glows about it), Blade of the Immoral, and Sanctuary. (Less so Battle Angel Alita, but you might still like its tone and art stylings.) I could name a bunch more, but I'm trying to stick with things you might actually be able to find and read at a Barnes and Noble or the like.

You have to wade through lots and LOTS of crap to find the gems in american comics. Manga is MUCH bigger and MUCH broader, and though we've picked up steam in recent years we still miss quite a lot of it. A general dismissal is entirely foolish.

When in doubt, read more.

I have read many manga because my friend is a hardcore collector. I have never found it interesting in the least. Many are just variations of other storys already done in manga or by western comics . There are a few gems that are worth reading but they are few and far between.

 

[cthellis42]

There are a few gems that are worth reading but they are few and far between.

Gee, kinda like here, eh? "Gems" for each individual person are few and far between, intermixed with lots of "stuff" and a whole mess of "crap." Have you ever read the ones I mentioned?

 

[jvd]

There are a few gems that are worth reading but they are few and far between.

Gee, kinda like here, eh? "Gems" for each individual person are few and far between, intermixed with lots of "stuff" and a whole mess of "crap." Have you ever read the ones I mentioned?

I am not sure . I will have to go look at the book case. I have read all the ones in there but I can not know the tittles off the top of my head .

 

[Gubbi]

magna was never interesting. It pales in comparison to dc . Dark knight returns , kingdom come , knight fall , emerald twilight. All much better than any magna i read.

Well Akira was carried by a strong story. Which, I guess, is essential to any good book/comic/moive/whatever. Much like Frank Miller's
Batman: The Dark Knight Returns mini series.

Cheers
Gubbi

 

[London Geezer]

Well, it all comes down to taste i guess, and i have a weakness for the epicness of DC series and the sheer crazy fantasy of some mangas... And of course i very much appreciate the Marvel universe. Still i'd say that DC and mangas have a special place in my heart...

Tried doing the Spawn thing for a while, and although great looking, the first issues never really caught my eye in terms of storyline, it never really got me hooked up... It was always a "very cool comic to show my friends and make them go OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH"

Trust me, Cthellis, i have read enough, of course i havent read much in the last 3 years, since i actually started doing something in my life, but i've read enough... Italy has always been very comic-friendly for some reason, and at the time it was much much easier to find comics in Italy than here in england, where no one gives a shit... The whole comics market in Italy is very strong, loads of people buy comics and new series are always "given a shot" at least... Which is quite commendable, since they have to translate the flipping things...

 

[cthellis42]

Lovely timing this, but you'll be happy to know that Saint Seiya has been picked up and is being released now by ADVision. ^_^ Hadn't heard from this in AGES, and it just happens to come up on here, and has just started being re-released. Hehe...

Of course, uh, availability in the UK may be a bit worse. But hey, you're used to that by now.

 

[Natoma]

*cough* Wildstorm *cough*



The Authority, before Brian Hitch and Warren Ellis left. That comic series got me back into comic books after about a decade out of them. Of course, now I'm back out of comics again, but I've still got my Authority paperback collection. hehe.

I still have my old Transformers comics in near mint condition, with the complete series up until about issue 80 I think. Haven't a clue what they're worth these days though.

 

[cthellis42]

Funny, that was what got me INTO comics! I loved the Transformers cartoon and always rooted for the Decepticons, and one day I saw Transformers #25 on the shelf (the "death of Megatron") and picked it up on a whim. I started collecting them and following comics more and wanted to pick up a new series from the beginning, and Silver Surfer started up in that timeframe so I hopped on board to see what it would be like. That was pretty much the only reason I ended up being Marvel-aligned from the beginning... One series led to another. Hehe...

 

[London Geezer]

Let's just not mention DragonBall. Please.
Read it all. Many times. Loved it. Enough.

I'm really not sure how it got SO mainstream. Really, I don't know what they were doing right, I admit i adored it and read it many times, but there are many more interesting comics out there. How did this one get so successful?

 

[ByteMe]

I vote for the one that prints anime.

 

[davefb]

I'm with Neeyik,, 2000AD is/was just amazing... i guess partly i prefered it 'back then' coz marvel and dc comics seemed to take AGES to tell a story and 2000ad was more 'gritty'.......[ and as an 8yr old i could neither find nor afford em]

i'm *sure* i had the first one when i was a nipper, but being a right pillock i let my mum 'clear it away' aaarrrggghhh!

mind you frank millars batman and of course watchmen did get me reading comics again ( for a while )...
-dave-

then theres always viz

 

[jvd]

Let's just not mention DragonBall. Please.
Read it all. Many times. Loved it. Enough.

I'm really not sure how it got SO mainstream. Really, I don't know what they were doing right, I admit i adored it and read it many times, but there are many more interesting comics out there. How did this one get so successful?

the non stop action .That is why my cousin loves it

 

[cthellis42]

Dragonball Z hurts my head... Not so much the original series, as it was a lot more hokey and humerous, but with DBZ and beyond they just kept upping the power level and charging from one predictable, poorly-animated fight sequence to the next. I mean, if one wants a good "fighting-series" like that, why not the likes of Yu Yu Hakusho, Flame of Recca--and especially Rurouni Kenshin--which have much more variety, intelligence, and better story running underneath, not to mention just better-staged fights in general. Plus, they also END!

 

[SMarth]

mmmm... Superman, THE biggest character DC has ever had, "only" died once... Unless i've missed something in the last 3 years that is. The Death of Superman was one of the single best sagas in the 90's. Also, DC characters die once never to come back, and if they do it is ONCE, or because they never died.

I said major "vilain". How many times do you think Lex Luthor was though to be death in the last 40 years, surely more then Magneto. Sorry, but Marvel and DC are exactly the same on this. Beside, what is death in a fantastic universe that do not obey the law of science ?

Supergirl died and stayed dead (the "current" Supergirl is not the real Supergirl, it's just an alien entity capable of taking any form that took her place after the real one's death...). She (or should i say IT) has very different powers too, not being from Kripton of course...

What that has to do with anything that I said is beyond me...

I mean, even BUFFY has died like three times (OK it's 2 and a half)...

Sorry, I never could stand that show, I was a XENA fan