Miles morales is another last gen game? It's on the ps4. Taking a last gen game, running it at a higher resolution and then bolting on RT reflections/shadows doesn't make it next gen. The game looks basically no different to me than Spiderman 2018.
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Lets just get this out of the way first, just because TLOU 2 is more open doesn't make it more demanding than TLOU 1 remake. There are a whole bunch of linear tech demos that invalidate this line of thinking. Now to address the rest of your points, like I said, I don't know why it runs this way. Clearly something changed with the uncharted collection port and this one because the outcome is drastically different. You're free to speculate as much as you like but at the end, it's just baseless speculation because there's we don't have any information. Those who have access to the devs can ask and get a definitive answer. Until them, everyone is just blowing smoke from their behind. Who knows, you could be right but, it would be merely coincidence.
What speculation am I making exactly?
Play this game on the PC and come back. It is one of the best looking game - especially on a widescreen display with raytracing. This is current gen like TLoU, there is a PS4 game, too. And Spider-Man Remastered and Miles Morales are much better looking on the PS5 than on the PS4 (Pro).
The pc version looks marginally better than the ps5 version and that version itself was not really impressive to me.
None of it is speculation.
- Has roots on the PS3, check.
- Features small and constrained environments, check.
- Has no RT, check.
- Performance on PC isn't exactly good, check.
- Is not the most visually impressive game out there despite being arguably the most demanding RT notwithstanding, check.
Where did I speculate?
We have eyes though.
At this point, I don't want to argue for arguments sake. I'll just say this and move on.
Firstly, your comment makes the assumption that the quality of visuals dictate what constitutes justifiable performance. Again, I suppose it's subjective but to me, justifiable performances stems from comparing input to output. If their game engine is structured in a way that is currently sub-optimal for the pc space, then to me, it can be entirely justifiable. If the game is meeting the performance estimates of the engine, then what can I say? It's unjustifiable? That doesn't make any sense.
The second assumption your comment implies is that the scale of the environments dictate it's performance characteristics. Again, this is not necessairly true and I referenced earlier linear tech demos which are way more demanding than full games.
Just so we're on the same page, when I say speculation, I'm referring to the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence.
Finally, do not take this as me thinking the port is without issues. On the contrary, i think it has issues but, I don't know why it's performing the way it does.
this seems very unlikely.
Nixxes built a new memory system for the PC version of Spider-Man:
www.gamedeveloper.com
There are alot more details about the port.
How Marvel's Spider-Man optimized its web-swings for PC gamers
Renowned PC-porting studio Nixxes reflects on its first project for Sony, speaks directly to #stutterstruggle.
There are alot more details about the port.
At the same time, the VT system doesn't appear to be behaving as it should.
I actually don't understand what you're trying to say.
You already addressed it in the post above. Most people would argue that “quality of visuals dictate what constitutes justifiable performance” but you disagree.
I entirely disagree with this except for cases where the game does something obviously impressive that doesn't necessarily translate to eye candy. It doesn't appear that TLOU Part I does this but I could be wrong. Mayhap there is something ludicrous going on under the hood that we're unaware of.
That’s fair.
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Steam is now accepting refund for TLOU even after the two hour trial period. People are refunding the game in hords it seems.
Just spinning the camera around will often cause framedrops and frametimes to
Good stuff! This PC release has been a monumental failure and it deserves the reaction it's getting.
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That's the current price of GDDR6, and probably something relatively slow like 14000 mhz. Just one year ago to the day, an 8gb GDDR6 chip was 10.884 session average - more than three times the current price. It was even higher in Jan 2022 at 12 ~ 13 $.
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And this wasn't even for something more niche and none standard, like the GDDR6X in the 3070Ti or the 3080. 2020 ~ 2022 was a crazy old time! I'm not sure having 8GB be the base minimum "a long time ago" was all that realistic (depending on who long ago we're talking about).
Nvidia are notoriously stingy with memory for sure no question, but GDDR6 was a lot more expensive even just recently. AMD are much better in terms of memory quantity, but I suppose they have to be as their RT performance is weak and FSR still isn't as good as DLSS.
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