Current Generation Games Analysis Technical Discussion [2022] [XBSX|S, PS5, PC]
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1080p / 30fps in RT/Quality mode... damn this game is heavy!
Not sure where to post this, but thought it might be something useful to keep an eye out for tomorrow (via GamingBolt)
Sony AI and Polyphony Digital Announcing “Breakthrough Project in AI” Tomorrow
https://gamingbolt.com/sony-ai-and-polyphony-digital-announcing-breakthrough-project-in-ai-tomorrow
Sony AI and Polyphony Digital Announcing “Breakthrough Project in AI” Tomorrow
https://gamingbolt.com/sony-ai-and-polyphony-digital-announcing-breakthrough-project-in-ai-tomorrow
Johnny Awesome
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Of course he does.
By this, I take it that you’re insinuating he’s console warring to which he’s entitled. You’re also entitled to dislike and disapprove of his approach, however, it’s really easy to take pot shots from the comfort provided by your anonymity while offering nothing of value as it relates to the understanding of the problem.
If my insinuation is correct and you’re accusing him of console warring, it’s mighty ironic as you’re also guilty of the same thing.
For fucks sake if you've ever tried to work with a game engine, or even just gamed on PC, or even just considered "why does this game stutter on XSX but not on the archaic XBOne" you can see that certain insinuations are loaded and retarded but some have a ... degree of merit. This does not.
I used to think I could "know without experiencing", but actually trying to do stuff with engines taught me that I know fuck all and I need to go through performance logs and ponder carefully.
NXG dude is great at noticing things and I respect that, but he is staggeringly bad at being impartial about attributing cause.
Riddlewire
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You lack sufficient evidence to make that claim.
He could merely be implying that NXG has a tendency to jump at speculative technical arguments in order to bolster his reputation as an analyst.
That's not my claim. Nor is it necessarily that of Johnny Awesome. I'm just pointing out that you shouldn't be making any insinuations based on four vague words.
You do realize that the portion of my post you quoted is a qualifier right? It’s a simple if then and if my insinuation was incorrect, my assertion would be incorrect.
Like I said, it’s easy to take cheap shots at others from the comfort of one’s anonymity and I dislike it a lot. People on forums tend to converse in absolutes and I myself am guilty of this as well. It is what it is I guess. My problem with his statement was that he offered no alternative explanations. It was just lazy. If you want to refute a claim, do so with a productive counter argument not a cheap pot shot.
I think it's more that Nxgamer is a very obvious Playstation fanboy and whenever he runs into these sort of situations he automatically jumps to "the Series X RAM set up is a limitation" or "the Series X SSD isn't fast enough" or "the Series X GPU clockspeed is slower" as reasons instead of blaming the obvious issue of optimization by the developer. He's not really console warring... He's just trying to project the piece of plastic he's more emotionally attached to in a better light than the competition. Actually, now that I think about it I guess that is console warring lol.
Honestly i fail to see that game as some benchmark, it looks completely last gen graphics wise with some RT pasted on it, we already have other games a lot better looking and running better. Whatever happens on each version does not matter. It's like taking the desastrous GTA trilogy remaster as some sort of benchmark to compare new consoles.
Just becouse you have accesss to data doesnt mean you will be able to come to meanigfull conclusions if you lack expereince or knowledge. There was some funny article about it where author made theory that is actually easier to have sex with Kim Kardashian than cath ebola in Africa. My point is its easy to get facts wrong even if you have right data.
Here we go again, NXG appears here and a stirred up discussion follows. Happens everytime and will everytime one of his videos are posted, unless nxg improves.
It wouldnt be any better if a channel was shared that would be biased towards another platform, its just bound to happen.
DL2 does look nice, amazing in some scenes, just not on consoles. Doesnt mean it cant be used as a benchmark of some sort, In the last df direct it was said the game was running at the highest settings on consoles which isnt that usual, in turn tanks performance.
Oh and its quite amazing to still see people bringing up and attacking the xbox’s memory setup, it started before it was released and it will exist longer then the actual console itself.
Both memory setups arent ideal (as in both fast and amount at the same time), they both are a cost to performance compromise to fit the console bom. Both probably have their ad and disadvantages, but i doubt this in DL2 or any game released so far has to do so much with the ’memory setup’ of each console when theres a difference between xsx/ps5 other then optimizations.
It wouldnt be any better if a channel was shared that would be biased towards another platform, its just bound to happen.
DL2 does look nice, amazing in some scenes, just not on consoles. Doesnt mean it cant be used as a benchmark of some sort, In the last df direct it was said the game was running at the highest settings on consoles which isnt that usual, in turn tanks performance.
Oh and its quite amazing to still see people bringing up and attacking the xbox’s memory setup, it started before it was released and it will exist longer then the actual console itself.
Both memory setups arent ideal (as in both fast and amount at the same time), they both are a cost to performance compromise to fit the console bom. Both probably have their ad and disadvantages, but i doubt this in DL2 or any game released so far has to do so much with the ’memory setup’ of each console when theres a difference between xsx/ps5 other then optimizations.
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It's not like it's the first time there are some random stutters only seen in XSX games. Recently It happened in BF 2042 with incredible 0fps pauses. I don't think those 'bugs' have being fixed yet, maybe here @Dictator could tell us more.
Also NXGamer is using the PC game to base his theory as that version can be more thoroughly analysed.
snc
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Opposite, I said number matters just not selective
snc
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Yeah but we also had case of Control and after some system patch it was fixed and memory config stay same
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