Could revolution actually be the number 1 console next gen?

pc999 said:
I think it could be ver different this time, for the start is a paradigm change, it is not only for the "old market", some dont think that next gen worth that much or it is limited (I am not included), for the dev (some at least) next gen it is a big rysc, many want diferent things...principal is that this time (unlike PSOne...) Rev will not be a cheap and outdated console and IMO it does have good changes if they do a few things right.

You realize that the above could describe the Virtual Boy as well?
 
There are still so many unknowns at this point that a lot of what is stated here is speculation, but I'll play along. Let's assume that the Rev does hit sub $200. Let's assume the Rev's power is closer to Xbox 360 than to Gamecube--i.e. closer to the next generation than the current generation.

Now think about a potential consumer. You have a well know brand (Nintendo), well known games (SMB, Zelda, Metroid), and a curious controller all for ~$250 (console plus one game). That's almost an impulse buy, not quite but almost. For 360 and PS3, which will cost over $450 (console plus one game), most people will think long and hard and actually save money before picking up the console. What I'm saying is that for $250 or possibly cheaper, you'll get more people saying, "It's Nintendo, it's Mario, it's Zelda, I want to try out the controller, why not?" This is just anecdotal, but many people I know decide to buy things like an iPod with just one or two weeks worth of decision time since it's "only" $200. They never talk about it then one day they just show up with an iPod. What's that magic price for the majority of consumers to consider somehing an impulse buy? I don't know, but $250 vs. $450 is a big margin. Don't underestimate the impulse and semi-impulse buying crowd. Many will say that is the very crowd that made the NES what it is and made Nintendo to be the company that it has become.
 
Ty said:
You realize that the above could describe the Virtual Boy as well?

I havent noticed, but you are right, anyway adding Rev is much less "bizarre", more atractive, less "frightfull" (than VR gogles) and more more intuitive so it should be better than VB, IMO.
 
pc999 said:
I havent noticed, but you are right, anyway adding Rev is much less "bizarre", more atractive, less "frightfull" (than VR gogles) and more more intuitive so it should be better than VB, IMO.

True, the Revolution should be much more approachable than the VB.
 
Shifty Geezer said:
They've proven it to PC999 for sure ;) I think DS shows gameplay is more important than specs to some (many?) consumers too.

If that's the case then does that also prove that some (many?) consumers are very interesting in great graphics too (i.e. PSP hw sales)?
 
mckmas8808 said:
If that's the case then does that also prove that some (many?) consumers are very interesting in great graphics too (i.e. PSP hw sales)?

I'd say consumers only care about great games :LOL:
 
mckmas8808 said:
If that's the case then does that also prove that some (many?) consumers are very interesting in great graphics too (i.e. PSP hw sales)?
Yes. With 6 billion+ people in the world, all pretty diverse, it'd be surprising if all of them cared for graphics and shunned gameplay, or all of them couldn't care less about graphics and would rather have new gameplay methods.

It is however not proven that consumers are buying PSP for great graphics. That's but one string to it's bow. The different functioanlities are each another. Whereas in the case of DS, games are the only reason to buy it at the moment, so the success of DS shows that a different approach to games appeals to a lot of people.
 
I do agree with you last posts.

Shifty Geezer said:
They've proven it to PC999 for sure ;) I think DS shows gameplay is more important than specs to some (many?) consumers too.

Assuming that what they told to us is true, it seems very exiting, still till they only created the potential they still need to actualize it and a lot could be done yet.

mckmas8808

Like I said too someone if (eg) PS3 put the Eyetoy, a micro , those MEM chips, the trackball controller and whatever more the others consoles would be much but much more interesting IMO.

Personally I think that power+new interfaces is the best thing we can get (I hope we dont get those but separated).
 
pc999 said:
I think it could be ver different this time, for the start is a paradigm change, it is not only for the "old market", some dont think that next gen worth that much or it is limited (I am not included), for the dev (some at least) next gen it is a big rysc, many want diferent things...principal is that this time (unlike PSOne...) Rev will not be a cheap and outdated console and IMO it does have good changes if they do a few things right.

This is what I was talking about with the "budget" monicker. "Budget" seems to have a negative conotation. So, I'll rebrand it..."Value" Market. The Revolution is likely to be priced at around the $200.00 mark USD, as it's modest hardware--but still very much more capable than aging, last-gen hardware (gamecube, PS2, XBOX).

Innovating the interface may just be the key this time around for Nintendo. They are a smaller company with less assets. They are banking on imaginative, approachable hardware. I think they've found their niche with the DS. Now they plan on transistioning that business model over to the console world.

IMO It is going to work. People will pick up a Revolution, regardless if they already have another next-gen console or not. At a low price point, with good games, and an exciting new interface that isn't that drastically different from things regular people have been using for years (the tv remote)...it's going to be win/win for Nintendo.
 
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