Console Religion...

[BigGamer X]

errr... i think with the first paragraph u confirmed what was said in the first post... especially the "to the detriment of the other, technically superior consoles" comment... i mean, if PS2 "won" something it's because of how Sony handled the marketing, the time difference in releasing the consoles themselves, how many good games there are on the machine, name recognition, good enough hardware to play games that can sometimes be considered "on par" with the technically superior competition to the untrained eye... that kind of thing, not really "because fanbois are defending it"....

london-boy,
Right, marketing, most consumers lack of knowledge of hardware power (and what it does), game avialibity, and being first have helped Sony the most. However, some people do go by "word of mouth". Some people can't decide for themselves whether to go GC/XBOX/PS2 and I am sure some GCs and XBOXs have gone unsold due to the popularity of PS2 FANBOYS, not the console itself.

It's that small percentage of people that bought PS2 because they were misinformed by fanboys telling outright LIES that bothers me. (there are alot of people out there that think PS2 is the most powerful yet , and this is due in no small part to fanboys buying into the EE BS, as if GPUs don't matter) The people that bought PS2 because of its games, based on their own preference, that's great.

But how many PS2s were bought by parents who don't have a clue? My own sister/niece made that mistake. PS2 was "popular" at school, so they thought PS2 was the way to go. Later, they saw some of my xbox games and said WOW! GC was very highly thought of too, after seeing the games. When they first saw it before I turned it on they had laughed........all based off of it's perception, not off of what it really has to offer.

Not everybody that buys consoles hangs out on the internet and understands what each console REALLY has to offer. You would be surprised about the number of people that buy mostly on REPUTATION, and fanboys can really mess these people up by telling them lies. (these are the clueless people that just want what's "Best", even though there really is no "best" console, they end up buying the "popular" one, even if it doesn't really suit them the best.)

Consoles aren't important purchases such as cars, houses, ect. So people tend not to do much research before they buy. This leads to word of mouth (fanboys can warp truth from reality) being a more major factor. I work with the "common" people so I know alot about them, I am one of them. However, I don't like relying on what other people have to say, I do my own research and buy what I know I will really like, because money doesn't grow on trees. Remember, the majority of console owners are mainstream, not geeks like us.

 

[London Geezer]

errr... i think with the first paragraph u confirmed what was said in the first post... especially the "to the detriment of the other, technically superior consoles" comment... i mean, if PS2 "won" something it's because of how Sony handled the marketing, the time difference in releasing the consoles themselves, how many good games there are on the machine, name recognition, good enough hardware to play games that can sometimes be considered "on par" with the technically superior competition to the untrained eye... that kind of thing, not really "because fanbois are defending it"....

london-boy,
Right, marketing, most consumers lack of knowledge of hardware power (and what it does), game avialibity, and being first have helped Sony the most. However, some people do go by "word of mouth". Some people can't decide for themselves whether to go GC/XBOX/PS2 and I am sure some GCs and XBOXs have gone unsold due to the popularity of PS2 FANBOYS, not the console itself.

It's that small percentage of people that bought PS2 because they were misinformed by fanboys telling outright LIES that bothers me. (there are alot of people out there that think PS2 is the most powerful yet , and this is due in no small part to fanboys buying into the EE BS, as if GPUs don't matter) The people that bought PS2 because of its games, based on their own preference, that's great.

But how many PS2s were bought by parents who don't have a clue? My own sister/niece made that mistake. PS2 was "popular" at school, so they thought PS2 was the way to go. Later, they saw some of my xbox games and said WOW! GC was very highly thought of too, after seeing the games. When they first saw it before I turned it on they had laughed........all based off of it's perception, not off of what it really has to offer.

Not everybody that buys consoles hangs out on the internet and understands what each console REALLY has to offer. You would be surprised about the number of people that buy mostly on REPUTATION, and fanboys can really mess these people up by telling them lies. (these are the clueless people that just want what's "Best", even though there really is no "best" console, they end up buying the "popular" one, even if it doesn't really suit them the best.)

Consoles aren't important purchases such as cars, houses, ect. So people tend not to do much research before they buy. This leads to word of mouth (fanboys can warp truth from reality) being a more major factor. I work with the "common" people so I know alot about them, I am one of them. However, I don't like relying on what other people have to say, I do my own research and buy what I know I will really like, because money doesn't grow on trees. Remember, the majority of console owners are mainstream, not geeks like us.

1) I AINT A GEEK!!!


2) all u said goes down to "good marketing" in my book. even the decision of Sony to start calling chips with names such as Emotion Engine and Graphics Synthetiser go down to marketing. that thing that Sony does OH SO WELL... the fact that buyers get to think "oh its got da emotion engine innit" is all PR. consequently Fanbois are born and THEN u have the "word of mouth" phenomenon.
of course Sony's goal was to get the average Joe to think that the EE+GS was more powerful than what the competition has even if it aint. they are, like everyone else, in the market to make money. and they are making it. loads of it.
at the end of the day Mr Joe Average will be "more attracted" by something called "emotion engine" than something called Pentium or NV2a... he will "feel" like it is more powerful, add it upo to the fact that it's made by sony "ooooh the people who made the playstation innit!" and there u have it...
MS pushed the numbers which only attracted people who know or think they know about technicalities.
Sony pushed the "cool" factor just like they did with the first playstation, and that helped them a lot. it still helps them...
the fact that they got many people to think PS2 is more powerful than the competition is reason enough to admire Sony's marketing team.

 

[Simon F]

I agree, the Imprezza is shit

Nah, just ugly.

 

[marconelly!]

Here is the way it all began
you had Sega people and Nintendo people
both were great.

Oh boy... Where were you in those days? There was *nothing* great about those kids either. The only thing that was different is that internet wasn't so widespread, but the usenet chatter was probably just as bad or even worse than 'console wars' today.

Couple of months ago, I was reading on GAF how one of the posters (while he still was a kid in those days), gave the money to other kid to beat up the third kid just because the third kid wore a sonic t-shirt

 

[Joe DeFuria]

Hey,

I was (seriously!) painting my dining room last night in an old 3dfx Voodoo Banshee T-Shirt. (Thanks Tommy!)

Should I get beaten up? And if so, by whom?

1) By nVidia, ATI, S3, Matrox, and PowerVR fans because I wore a 3dfx T-Shirt.
2) By 3dfx fans for wearing the T-Shirt in an environment "disrespectful" to their memory

 

[Dr. Ffreeze]

Joe,

I was (seriously!) painting my dining room last night in an old 3dfx Voodoo Banshee T-Shirt. (Thanks Tommy!)

Should I get beaten up?

Yes you should be beaten up as everyone knows that the only way to get motivated to paint is to paint nekid with your Honey! =P

Dr. Ffreeze

 

[Joe DeFuria]

Yes you should be beaten up as everyone knows that the only way to get motivated to paint is to paint nekid with your Honey! =P

That reminds me...I still have 2 walls left to paint!

 

[AzBat]

Hey,

I was (seriously!) painting my dining room last night in an old 3dfx Voodoo Banshee T-Shirt. (Thanks Tommy!)

Should I get beaten up? And if so, by whom?

1) By nVidia, ATI, S3, Matrox, and PowerVR fans because I wore a 3dfx T-Shirt.
2) By 3dfx fans for wearing the T-Shirt in an environment "disrespectful" to their memory

LOL, Hell, I don't even remember sending that to you. Probably was included with all the boards I sent you. Good thing I kept the good boards.

BTW, I've got all kinds of t-shirts still. I have 3dfx, 3dlabs, Creative Labs and PowerVR shirts. Unfortunately I'm like twice as big as I was when I first got them. Now my sweetie wears them. Although, there's this one 2XL 3Dlabs shirt that I like to wear when go to the field to do some surveying. I don't care if it gets ruined.

Anyway, good to hear that the Banshee was good for something.

Tommy McClain

 

[keegdsb]

I wear my Matrox shirt to the local LAN parties, and my fanATIcal friends threaten me all the time.

LisaJoy: You skipped like the first half of console history!

Monkey vs. Robot? Duh, no contest. Just give the monkey a big barrel, and the robot has no chance...

 

[Chris123234]

Coke vs. Pepsi - Duh..Coke
Mustang vs. Camaro - Corvette Ownz All (Stingray) To me mustangs dont have the cool factor anymore, now that every other person has one, and theres always one in sight...
Domestic vs. Imports - Domestic are cooler but some imports are cool too, but i hate cars that sound like kawasaki bikes...waaaaah waaah waaaah
Energizer vs. Duracell - I could care less.
DirecTV vs. Dish -lol those are both Dishes
Star Wars vs. Star Trek - Star wars
Old Star Wars vs. New Star Wars
Old Star Trek vs. New Star Trek - neither, I got bored of it
Survivor vs. Fear Factor - fear factor
Fox News vs. CNN - dont care
Liberal vs. Conservative - too young to care, lol
Snickers vs. Milkyway - snickers
UPS vs. FedEx - dont care
SolidWorks vs. Solid Edge - no clue what either are
Windows vs. Mac OS - I hate mac with a passion. What can I do with one button?!?
Jews vs. Palestinians (there's a good one!) - lol, they just need to share, seriously...
CD vs. Vinyl - CD
Tubes vs. Solidstate - ?
Quake vs. Unreal - quake is hardcore fast and unreal is more..uh...pleasurable?
Lamborghini vs. Ferrari - Maclaren wOoT (o0) lol
Turbocharged vs. Natural Aspiration - turbo
Turbocharged vs. Supercharged - super
FWD vs. RWD - rear, duh. Since when is a burn out cool when its on the front wheels? Please....
RWD vs. AWD -either

sorry for OT but i couldnt help it.