close look of NV40

Mintmaster said:
You might be able to squeeze in one of those USB port brackets that come with many motherboards, in which case it's a better design.
Or the game controller thingy for an Audigy2 or something, you have a good point. :)
 
Don't know about the Audigy thingie, but a USB bracket certainly won't fit.
I would still rather have a proper exhaust port there.
 
Stryyder said:
Wow it better really really perform well if it is going to have a monster like that on it!

I think the bigger problem will be the extra heat it puts into your case. Even if the GPU is kept cool enough (which will be diminishing returns given it takes hot air from inside the case) the rest of your system (RAM, chipset, CPU) will get hotter, and you may well have to have more/noisier fans in your case to try to get the extra heat out or suffer from system instablity.

If you're going to produce that much heat and need a monster cooler that uses a second slot, venting it out the back of the case would have made a lot more sense.
 
Bouncing Zabaglione Bros. said:
Stryyder said:
Wow it better really really perform well if it is going to have a monster like that on it!

I think the bigger problem will be the extra heat it puts into your case. Even if the GPU is kept cool enough (which will be diminishing returns given it takes hot air from inside the case) the rest of your system (RAM, chipset, CPU) will get hotter, and you may well have to have more/noisier fans in your case to try to get the extra heat out or suffer from system instablity.

If you're going to produce that much heat and need a monster cooler that uses a second slot, venting it out the back of the case would have made a lot more sense.
Yep, in my setup, it'd blow the hot air directly in the HDD cage, something I don't exactly like for an idea.
 
Bouncing Zabaglione Bros. said:
If you're going to produce that much heat and need a monster cooler that uses a second slot, venting it out the back of the case would have made a lot more sense.
Maybe the benefits of keeping the sound inside outweight the benefits of venting the air out this time, might at least produce fewer dustbuster jokes.
 
thatdude90210 said:
Bouncing Zabaglione Bros. said:
If you're going to produce that much heat and need a monster cooler that uses a second slot, venting it out the back of the case would have made a lot more sense.
Maybe the benefits of keeping the sound inside outweight the benefits of venting the air out this time, might at least produce fewer dustbuster jokes.

I think there might be something to that.
 
tazdevl said:
thatdude90210 said:
Bouncing Zabaglione Bros. said:
If you're going to produce that much heat and need a monster cooler that uses a second slot, venting it out the back of the case would have made a lot more sense.
Maybe the benefits of keeping the sound inside outweight the benefits of venting the air out this time, might at least produce fewer dustbuster jokes.

I think there might be something to that.

At what cost higher case temps? Bad decision. Loud is better than too hot.
 
Stryyder said:
At what cost higher case temps? Bad decision. Loud is better than too hot.

I disagree - if such extreme and loud cooling is required then Nvidia is basically overclocking their own parts. Instead of pumping out a loud card, the clock should be reduced, along with the fan rpm.
 
At what cost higher case temps? Bad decision. Loud is better than too hot
True, but not by much. Would you rather die by lethal injection or electrocution?

Does anyone else have serious concerns about the power usage/heat dissipation of this card? I am actually willing to tolerate very high current draw because I can compensate for that, but a screaming loud fan, how can I fix that? Rip the HSF off and engineer my own? Gonna have to just wait and see.
 
Stryyder said:
tazdevl said:
thatdude90210 said:
Bouncing Zabaglione Bros. said:
If you're going to produce that much heat and need a monster cooler that uses a second slot, venting it out the back of the case would have made a lot more sense.
Maybe the benefits of keeping the sound inside outweight the benefits of venting the air out this time, might at least produce fewer dustbuster jokes.

I think there might be something to that.

At what cost higher case temps? Bad decision. Loud is better than too hot.


quiet and cool is the best though. the arctic cooling VGA silencer for radeons has shown plenty well enough that you can have an outside exhuasting cooling system and have it very quiet.

I have that cooler and its effectively silent on the low speed setting and quieter than the 9800pros stock cooler on the high speed setting. It cools very well and it's fairly cheap to make. It's aluminium, the fins aren't particularly fine and the machined finish on the part that touches the core is pretty rough too so theres plenty of room to make it better (copper, finer fins).. I really can't see why a similar design isn't used.
 
Stryyder said:
At what cost higher case temps? Bad decision. Loud is better than too hot.

Well fundamentally the two are quite closely linked. In my opinion hot is better than loud.
 
SiliconAbyss said:
At what cost higher case temps? Bad decision. Loud is better than too hot
True, but not by much. Would you rather die by lethal injection or electrocution?

Does anyone else have serious concerns about the power usage/heat dissipation of this card? I am actually willing to tolerate very high current draw because I can compensate for that, but a screaming loud fan, how can I fix that? Rip the HSF off and engineer my own? Gonna have to just wait and see.

watercooling
 
SiliconAbyss said:
At what cost higher case temps? Bad decision. Loud is better than too hot
True, but not by much. Would you rather die by lethal injection or electrocution?

Does anyone else have serious concerns about the power usage/heat dissipation of this card? I am actually willing to tolerate very high current draw because I can compensate for that, but a screaming loud fan, how can I fix that? Rip the HSF off and engineer my own? Gonna have to just wait and see.

I agree but would you rather have something loud that needs to be loud vs something that is quiet and will cause your MB to shut down in the summer because of high temps. I would rather no up front and decide either to deal with the loudness or buy something else.
 
thatdude90210 said:
Maybe the benefits of keeping the sound inside outweight the benefits of venting the air out this time, might at least produce fewer dustbuster jokes.
But what if you need faster (louder) case and PSU fans to expel that extra heat from the case (particularly a front case fan, which will be louder than a rear fan like on a dual-slot exhausting cooler [IceQ, FX Flow])? The key to reducing noise seems to be more effective design and quality components, not hiding it in a box. Keep in mind most cases won't be that great at muffling sound, particularly newer Intel-spec ones with side cutouts.
 
P.S. a centrifugal fan done correctly is not that loud I have a vantec slot cooler right now and it is not the loudest fan in my case. If you design it right you can move a lot of air without making a lot of noise. If you design it right.
 
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