What they have said is that you will be allowed to turn off the camera.
Business Approach Comparison Sony PS4 and Microsoft Xbox
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What they have said is that you will be allowed to turn off the camera.
Thanks for that,good to hear. Last I read it was always on and mandatory for system to function.
Can you point in the direction to the where you read that?
Kinect must be connected to the console, but the camera can be turned off:
http://www.slashgear.com/xbox-one-k...ening-modes-for-living-room-privacy-22283117/
In the US at least, MS is a lock for 2:1 edge and I think a 3:1 edge is more likely. For the non-US folks, let me try to put the NFL deal in perspective. For you Europeans, imagine if only MS had soccer games and only MS had racing games. That probably still doesn't approach the level of importance of the NFL deal in the US if they fully exploit it.
While I am disappointed the MS didn't hammer down of one of those crazy 5 TF designs, current specs are fine in comparison to Sony as there is no meaningful difference between the 2 GPUs. Both will easily be able to output 1080P with high IQ. The differences will only be noticeable to folks who obsess over DF articles. In fact, if MS isn't BSing about the cloud capabilities, XBone may actually have a serious advantage in the 1 genre that tends to stress video systems - open world games.
Which console are we talking about the most? The Xbox One or PS4?
I think they're playing their hand at this point. They're releasing just enough information so that people start really talking about their console. It seems the traffic here is something like 2/3rds Xbox One and 1/3rd PS4.
I think they're playing their hand at this point. They're releasing just enough information so that people start really talking about their console. It seems the traffic here is something like 2/3rds Xbox One and 1/3rd PS4.
They seem to be dominating the discussion even though much of that discussion is negative or questionable. I guess the question is whether 'there's no such thing as bad publicity' is true.
I do wonder what the average age of gamers are these days. If you were 30 when this generation started you'd be 38 by now and you likely have kids between the ages of 3-15 given the latter age for having children. Perhaps the priorities of the target market have changed and the Microsoft console is simply reflecting a changing purchase demographic?
One thing I have noted time and again is that catering to the wider market always annoys the hardcore. Things which hardcore gamers don't even notice (or even enjoy) such as flaming, bad match-ups, slow lobbies and difficult controls seem to really put off the average gamer. The hardcore gamers are such a small group going by traffic on forums vs physical sales that they can be safely ignored as Nintendo showed with the Wii.
I do wonder what the average age of gamers are these days. If you were 30 when this generation started you'd be 38 by now and you likely have kids between the ages of 3-15 given the latter age for having children. Perhaps the priorities of the target market have changed and the Microsoft console is simply reflecting a changing purchase demographic?
One thing I have noted time and again is that catering to the wider market always annoys the hardcore. Things which hardcore gamers don't even notice (or even enjoy) such as flaming, bad match-ups, slow lobbies and difficult controls seem to really put off the average gamer. The hardcore gamers are such a small group going by traffic on forums vs physical sales that they can be safely ignored as Nintendo showed with the Wii.
The target wasnt general consumers who werent tuning in. They were targeting the press whose audience are general tech consumers. It should be obvious given who got initimate access to the hardware including engadget and wired.
MS is targeting a broader market including gamers and the TV guy. If you marketing a product to a market segment that isnt intimate with your product, where do you put your initial focus. On the gamers who have their own major conference coming up or trying to expose your product to a segment that will require more effort to become acquainted with your product.
Europe always plays second fiddle in the console market. Its not a home market, its segmented and requires a lot more effort to accommodate. Did Sony not care about Europe when it delayed its Europe launch to accommodate the US and Japan for the PS3. If Sony's first reveal would of been Japan centric with emphasis on features and games that it thought would excite the japanese would that be proof Sony doesnt care about Europe or the US? The US is the largest contiguous market that happens to strongly support the xbox brand. It also has a large tv entertainment market that dwarfs the us gaming market. The US represents a perfect opportunity for MS to target a broad audience with an strong appetite for tv entertainment that logistically is easier to serve.
That statement could be used to retort such assertions that the two hardware perform the same, the PS4 has a huge advantage or the xb1 will have a huge advantage. What little infomation that is provided shows two pieces of tech that have similarities with AMD discrete parts that are a sku or two apart from each other.
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It's not like Sony didn't wish they could have manufactured more PS3s at launch, but a half-ass European launch with only a token number of PS3s is worse. Besides,now I think they know they can't have a several month delay between regions, especially when these new consoles are going head-to-head. Microsoft making consoles is not an unknown quantity anymore.
That actually doesn't sound too far fetched. There will probably be XBO apps that will do these kinds of things outside of games.:smile:
Kinect is MS's Siri so we'll see more Siri like functions and intelligence with the cloud simulation/database feature of the XBO.
Gradthrawn
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They do? What taught them this lesson? They launched a year later, (a year and a half for Europe), a hundred dollars higher, and yet as it stands they're within spitting distance of the 360s total world wide shipments (depending on how you count it). What they've probably learned is that exotic boutique hardware is expensive to design, develop and manufacture. That the tools make the games (not just the hardware and the talent). That the world is now a very connected place with a requirement for immediacy (and expects its devices to be as well). What would a six month delay in Europe, with a stronger launch lineup, more stable online infrastructure and a more robust services roll out really cost them in the medium and long run? I'm genuinely asking here. I know Europe is their biggest market. But that also means its their biggest market, thus requiring more units in the channel to have anything but a token launch. If anything, they should consider launching there first in order to fill the supply channel and make the rest of the world wait. A delay in Asia will likely cost them nothing. A delay in NA will probably hurt about as much as it did last time (that was probably a painful delay in the long run). Actually, with that in mind, maybe NA first makes more sense.
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The point is there are certain realities that one has to deal with when addressing Europe. Sometimes the US and Japan are favored over Europe, not because manufacturers find the european market unimportant. But because the US and Japan are more easily serviced.
I don't get it how TV is going to be the big thing... isn't it streaming that will take over the world? Roku, appletv, ps3 and whatnot already covers that on very reasonable to ridiculously low price point without any extra monthly payments.
edit. And don't get me started on voice recognition. It doesn't work on my accent(english) or my native language. I would much rather press a button on remote than try saying silly things 3+ times to watch syfy channel
edit. And don't get me started on voice recognition. It doesn't work on my accent(english) or my native language. I would much rather press a button on remote than try saying silly things 3+ times to watch syfy channel
The two marketing teams definitely had a different approach for the unveiling event
I can't stop laughing.
Xbox
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw
PS4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_AiF9PXiwo
I can't stop laughing.
Xbox
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw
PS4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_AiF9PXiwo
Bagel seed
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This video has just as many views as the official hardware glamor shots one :smile: But much less dislikes..
(((interference)))
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Yeah, I wanted to show my sister a summary of the launch and the TV features and thought that video would be one. Not so!
It's quite accurate though lol.
Richard Leadbetter was telling me how he thought the MS announcement would not go down well with the core, and it certainly hasn't.
90% of GAF seems to have a low opinion of it:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=560500
arijoytunir
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When will Sony reveal the entertainment aspects of ps4 ? - at e3 or gamescom ?
They will have everything Microsoft has with Xbox one without the live tv IMO.
They will have everything Microsoft has with Xbox one without the live tv IMO.
I don't see how they can't talk about it at E3. In the past, everything but price and release date has at least been introduced at E3, though it doesn't need to be talked about at depth. If it's not seen there, people will assume it doesn't exist, and a phrase like "PS4 doesn't do Netflix" is actually a bad thing.
