Business Approach Comparison Sony PS4 and Microsoft Xbox

If the things shown on the TV demo are behind the paywall of XBL, then Kinect will be even less appealing.
 
Blu-ray caused the ps3 to be a year late , $100-$300 more expensive and ship with worse hardware.

I don't see any feature of the xbox one causing it to be that much more expensive and ship a year later. So the argument is moot

This is debatable, one could argue shipping with HDMI, Blu Ray and hard drive made the hardware superior.

The only hardware that can categorically be called worse was the GPU and the CPU was superior than what 360 shipped with.

Granted you can argue the need for these specs from a gaming perspective but by no means was the hardware categorically worse.
 
This is debatable, one could argue shipping with HDMI, Blu Ray and hard drive made the hardware superior.

The only hardware that can categorically be called worse was the GPU and the CPU was superior than what 360 shipped with.

Granted you can argue the need for these specs from a gaming perspective but by no means was the hardware categorically worse.

The PS3 was inferior in its memory design most particularly. Having the split pools that required lots of data copying, having a memory-heavy operating system that required reservations in both pools.. not pretty.
 
The PS3 was inferior in its memory design most particularly. Having the split pools that required lots of data copying, having a memory-heavy operating system that required reservations in both pools.. not pretty.

Any operating system would have required reservations in both pools, but I will admit it was rather memory heavy at the time.
 
Blu Ray Drive in PS3: Increased the cost, delayed the console AND showed marginal benefits whilst also detracting from the experience by increasing load times + compulsory installs.

You forget that BR have higher storage capacity (which is why XBO will have BR) and that thanks to this all PS3 games have better surround support and better FMV than Xbox 360 games.

Sure Sony took a hit with Blu-ray but now we know they went in the right direction.
 
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The PS3 was inferior in its memory design most particularly. Having the split pools that required lots of data copying, having a memory-heavy operating system that required reservations in both pools.. not pretty.

i'd venture thre split pools were not the problem per se. the problem was the substandard gpu.

i would have liked if ms went with split pools, and rather than edram, added 50% more shaders to xenos.

i think this would have led to a console inarguablly more powerful than ps3, rather than essentially tied as we ended up.

xenos was just very advanced, so it was able to do more in less area than rsx, which saved ms butt.
 
Looks like PSEye will not be bundle with the console.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=60731749&postcount=868

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Still it's officially saying the camera is sold separately. That'd be a truly stupid move by Sony IMO. EyeToy and PSEye never realised their potential, and another optional peripheral will consign PlayStation 4 Camera to the same fate. Edit: Oh, you mean the camera is sold separately to the DS4 and so that needs to be mentioned. Factoring in the below...

The reason why no-one else saw it is because the YT video is 2:30 and doesn't feature the disclaimer. It's not on the UK official PlayStation website either. It's only the US video that has this disclaimer added.

...I guess this is the case the crazy sue-happy USA getting an added disclaimer to cover the mind-numbingly obvious which some *%&£%~@ would still try and sue over when they don't a camera when they buy a DS4. Although the disclaimer doesn't say you'll need a PS4 console, sold separately, so that doesn't actually hold water. The video implies features that DS4 enables. It only enables this with the console and camera. The vid makes mention that you need to buy the camera separately, but not the console. If the camera comes with the console, why mention it?
 
I think the video disclaimer is stating that the PSEye is sold separately from the DS4, instead of the PS4.

Which makes sense.
The video is talking about the DS4 specifically, instead of the PS4, and the DS4 is, in itself, a complete product on its own.
 
But why do you need a PS4 camera sold separately when the console you are using the DS4 with already has a camera that came with it?
 
I guess you can never underestimate people's paranoia with cameras, as if someone actually wants to watch what they do in their homes.

Unless you live in Canada I doubt you would keep your front door unlocked, don't you?
It's the same principle and I really don't get what's there to argue about. If people don't want to enable audio and video surveillance at home that's a fully reasonable opinion. They don't deny you the right to enjoy the pleasure of doing the exact opposite, do they?
 
Unless you live in Canada I doubt you would keep your front door unlocked, don't you?
It's the same principle and I really don't get what's there to argue about. If people don't want to enable audio and video surveillance at home that's a fully reasonable opinion. They don't deny you the right to enjoy the pleasure of doing the exact opposite, do they?

I don't have the same paranoia about governments and corporations that I do with concerns about people stealing my high-value stuff.

At some point, the new Kinect will be in an episode of Person of Interest with the line "who knew people would be so willing to let cameras and microphones into their homes because they are too lazy to pickup a remote control?"
 
will be in an episode of Person of Interest with the line "who knew people would be so willing to let cameras and microphones into their homes because they are too lazy to pickup a remote control?"


yes because TV shows routinely make huge mistakes in stories with regards to technology and misinformation about how stuff works and panders to people's fears.
 
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