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So, even though "specs do not matter" at the end the GCN 2/Revolution/NES 5 will have the best specs of all three systems in terms of raw performance (strongest console)
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So, even though "specs do not matter" at the end the GCN 2/Revolution/NES 5 will have the best specs of all three systems in terms of raw performance (strongest console)
?If true, this is still just the GPU from ATI. ATI as we know is not on the top ladder when it come to process shrink, yet they keep cranking out impressive top ladder GPUs.
From what i seen of this gen, i felt that its not what you put in for big specs, but how you put in for games to shine.
From what i seen of this gen, i felt that its not what you put in for big specs, but how you put in for games to shine.
pahcman said:If true, this is still just the GPU from ATI. ATI as we know is not on the top ladder when it come to process shrink, yet they keep cranking out impressive top ladder GPUs.
From what i seen of this gen, i felt that its not what you put in for big specs, but how you put in for games to shine.
Nvidia has better feature support such as sm3.0 with much more transistors. It's inevitable also for ATI eventually, but ATI is taking easy way for the time being. Its power consumption is lower for the moment, but not sure about the future.
one said:pahcman said:If true, this is still just the GPU from ATI. ATI as we know is not on the top ladder when it come to process shrink, yet they keep cranking out impressive top ladder GPUs.
From what i seen of this gen, i felt that its not what you put in for big specs, but how you put in for games to shine.
Nvidia has better feature support such as sm3.0 with much more transistors. It's inevitable also for ATI eventually, but ATI is taking easy way for the time being. Its power consumption is lower for the moment, but not sure about the future.
yeah, nvidia does have support for sm3.0, but when games come out that actually use it... will the 6800 even be powerful enough to use it at high resolutions and such..?
also, nvidia has more transistors, but the power of their gpu isn't that better than the x800 platinum., which has less,. the 6800 pulls ahead in very few instances from the comparison i read, but for the most part the x800 pl.. was slightly ahead more often,. given the 6800 has more transistors, takes up two spots, runs hotter and takes more power to use,. wouldn't that make ATI the clear-cut winner? That's just my opinion though..
btw., hello i'm kinda new., though i've actually been reading these forums for a while.. this is my first post..
PC-Engine said:ATI is making the GPUs for both Xenon and Revolution so it's obvious why certain fan boys of a certain console are trying to downplay ATI's ability.
Hey if it makes you happy those TFLOPS could emulate anything.
yeah, and seeing as there is no reason to do so [nobody knows if the ps3 will even have a gpu or if it will run in a 'software' type mode that older games used to use, seeing as it is supposed to have all of that power behind it., which, also is not confirmed, or leaked, only speculated up till this point..], it doesn't make any sense to do so..
Everything will be clear soon. Lets be patient.
If all 3 have similar output, i will be disappointed. I certainly expect one of them to, clearly, lead the pack in how we can be immersed in nextgen games goodness. Who wouldnt? after all that have been said and done about pushing a new innovative architecture, designed ground up for next generation enjoyment.
If all 3 have similar output, i will be disappointed. I certainly expect one of them to, clearly, lead the pack in how we can be immersed in nextgen games goodness. Who wouldnt? after all that have been said and done about pushing a new innovative architecture, designed ground up for next generation enjoyment.
i dont think the power of the next consoles will matter with ps3 or xenon., they'll both be rediculously powerful., the only one i worry about is nintendo, because they like to do dumb stuff just to be different..
only thing that will matter is the games and how well the developers put them together..
only thing that will matter is the games and how well the developers put them together..
considering the performance they are able to get out of the current xbox with it's mediocre specs., i have a hard time imagining what will be possible with what they're thinking about.. i don't really care if it's 65m, 90nm, or even 110nm... at the end of the day,. it's a console., so it is a machine with one sole purpose and it will be better than anything currently on the market.. which look damn amazing already [doom3, ut 2k4, painkiller, far cry etc etc., running on 6800 gt or x800 pro]..
thats not even taking into account the leap from 733mhz to 3.5ghz., or 32 to 64bit or that it will have more memory., i'll be happy with whatever., seeing as if it were the specs of a traditional pc., they wouldn't look or run as well.. it's a ton cheaper.,
thats not even taking into account the leap from 733mhz to 3.5ghz., or 32 to 64bit or that it will have more memory., i'll be happy with whatever., seeing as if it were the specs of a traditional pc., they wouldn't look or run as well.. it's a ton cheaper.,
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Nightz said:
And historically Nintendo has always released a console slightly less powerfull than the technology that's available at the time...
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And how does this translate to "dumb"? The Gamecube is very powerful, pretty reliable and inexpensive to manufacture.
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