Anybody going to bite the bullet?
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3D speed and AA are great, but hardware DVD playback is broken (quality-wise), should be the usual ATI early driver problem.
edit: Update, I found it was the same problem that I have encountered for custm resolution with 8500 when a new set of driver was installed. Reseting the resolutions setting solved the problem.
edit: Update, I found it was the same problem that I have encountered for custm resolution with 8500 when a new set of driver was installed. Reseting the resolutions setting solved the problem.
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In short, I bit the bullet...I ordered a Parhelia last night 
Chalnoth, honestly that's not the worst of it. Earlier this year, my boss came to me with new boxed versions of WINDOWS XP and OFFICE XP and insisted that I install it on the computers cause her new 2Ghz P4 at home ran it. I pointed out that XP will not install on 32MB of Ram , and putting both on the hdd would leave us with about 3GB of HDD space . Still waiting for a system upgrade LOL. Of course with the money she spent on the full retail versions, she could have upgraded the computers to inexpensive , but usable 1.6 Ghz P4 or Athlons, but ah well, that's what she gets for not consulting anyone
Yeah, I remember talking to the IT manager at a clinic I worked part time at last year. I was urging him to try to get NT4 installed on the computers, since they were quite slow and the stability could really be used. He basically said that his hands were tied: if he didn't use the precise software that the developers of the clinic's medical software wanted, he couldn't get any tech support.
And that medical database was such a POS...errors cropped up all the time, requiring many calls to tech support to get the database fixed.
And that medical database was such a POS...errors cropped up all the time, requiring many calls to tech support to get the database fixed.
why is it that the computer clueless end up making the purchasing decisions?ben6 said:
I run in to this at work as well - My boss bought us 8 new Flatpanel monitors.
Great!
Too bad we have some single proc no hardware raid 233Mhz 128mb of ram servers running as domain controllers (win2k) that NEED an upgrade - or that the "Good" servers are dual 350's with 256MB of ram...
Why get a new server (needed) when you can have useless doodads that look nice?
Someone mentioned they were thinking of upgrading from the V5 to the 9700.
For anyone with that generation of cards, I think a GF4 Ti4200 makes more sense. $200 cheaper, a much reduced performance hit in antialiasing, sharp images with FSAA, far more performance and features, and mature drivers.
By comparison the 9700 has many months to go to be cheap and mature.
For anyone with that generation of cards, I think a GF4 Ti4200 makes more sense. $200 cheaper, a much reduced performance hit in antialiasing, sharp images with FSAA, far more performance and features, and mature drivers.
By comparison the 9700 has many months to go to be cheap and mature.
Um....I'm going to upgrde to the 9700 from a TI4600......why? Better, sharper AA, usable AF......in fact, the V5 still has better AA than any nVidia product....I've missed the AA quality of my V5 for 2 years.....don't miss the speed, though. Of course, IF you can't or don't want to afford the 9700.....what the heck are you posting in this thread for?
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Well, that seems to make equally as little sense. Why upgrade to something old, which will mean upgrading again that little bit earlier and probably wasting more again than you would have if you’d just purchased the 9700 now?
Anyone who has kept on to the V5 until now sounds like they are someone who doesn’t upgrade frequently and want something to last a little longer. By going for a 9700 now they will see a huge jump in performance, as well as making AA/Aniso available in virtually any of todays titles; it will have enough power to plays tomoorows engines acceptably and it has DX9 features. Upgrading to something like a 4200 now just means you’ll have to upgrade again sooner.
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Chalnoth said:My God, Ben, the idiots at work put WinME on a Pentium2? And a low-grade P2 at that?
Now that's just stupid...how many times a day does Windows crash on you?
LoL I had a K6 233 with 32 mb win 95 run oke and win 98 run good ofcourse it run better when I upgraded it to 64meg but I had no probs prior to that upgrade to 64 meg. (K ofcourse u couldn't open to many progs but that was about it)
most window crashes are caused by bad 3rd party and or ignorant users / or user who think they know it all
Anyone upgrading to the R9700 with thoughts of using an 8xagp mobo later on may want to hold off a bit, at least untill this gets sorted out.
http://66.224.5.66/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33634403
"Spent over an hour with ATI Customer Service Canada and more important, the Engineering Dept. The subject: Our testing shows the Radeon 9700 will NOT work at all on the Asus P4S8X (SiS648), Gigabyte 7VAXP (KT400/8235), and VIA P4PB (P4X400/8235) which are the only 8x AGP boards on the market. Customer Service was not completely aware of this, but Engineering is.
According to ATI, they are now receiving and testing these 8X AGP boards. They are ALSO finding the 9700 does not work at all or works intermittently at best on these boards. Engineering indicated most of the boards already shipped have this problem.
Solution: A new BIOS and some board revisions are now available that fix this problem. Call ATI Customer Service for help with the issue. At present, they will ship a replacement board that WILL work in SiS and VIA 8X, but they are also considering a BIOS flash solution for problem boards."
http://66.224.5.66/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33634403
"Spent over an hour with ATI Customer Service Canada and more important, the Engineering Dept. The subject: Our testing shows the Radeon 9700 will NOT work at all on the Asus P4S8X (SiS648), Gigabyte 7VAXP (KT400/8235), and VIA P4PB (P4X400/8235) which are the only 8x AGP boards on the market. Customer Service was not completely aware of this, but Engineering is.
According to ATI, they are now receiving and testing these 8X AGP boards. They are ALSO finding the 9700 does not work at all or works intermittently at best on these boards. Engineering indicated most of the boards already shipped have this problem.
Solution: A new BIOS and some board revisions are now available that fix this problem. Call ATI Customer Service for help with the issue. At present, they will ship a replacement board that WILL work in SiS and VIA 8X, but they are also considering a BIOS flash solution for problem boards."
3D WonderBoy said:LoL I had a K6 233 with 32 mb win 95 run oke and win 98 run good ofcourse it run better when I upgraded it to 64meg but I had no probs prior to that upgrade to 64 meg. (K ofcourse u couldn't open to many progs but that was about it)
most window crashes are caused by bad 3rd party and or ignorant users / or user who think they know it all
But you apparently didn't use Windows ME, did you? Do yourself a favor...don't!
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Andergum said:
Don't believe everything you read, hmmm 8X problems on new motherboards..go figure.
The same thing happened with 4X AGP, lockups etc..there will be some growing pains but Tbreak used a 8X board with no issues...
http://www.tbreak.com/reviews/article.php?id=136
CPU: Intel Pentium 4 "Northwood" 2.53GHz running at 133MHz FSB
Memory: 1 x 256MB Corsair XMS3000 DDR-333 Memory Module
Motherboard: ASUS P4S8X (SiS 648 chipset supporting AGP 8X)
Sound Card: Creative SB Live! 5.1
Optical/Hard Drives: Plextor DVD/CDRW Combo, Maxtor ATA-133 7200RPM 40GB IDE
Monitor: Relisys 17" Monitor
Operating System Windows XP Professional
Motherboard Drivers SiS 1.10.03 AGP, 2.01.02 IDE
Doomtrooper said:
Note: That review is for Creative's version of the R9700 may have a few differences like newer bios for instance. (don't know)
Hard OCP had problems...
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MzQw
"The card also supports AGP8X although at the time of testing the card we were not able to get the card stable on either a SiS 648 or VIA P4X400 mainboard. All of the benchmarks shown here are using a AGP4X bus."
Althornin said:
Isn't that akin to putting brand new professionally tinted windows in a 1974 Ford Pinto ?
Anyways, If i had the money, and hadn't upgraded to my Ti4200 earlier this summer (7-8 weeks ago), I would be in line right now for the 9700Pro.
Typedef Enum said:In short, I bit the bullet...I ordered a Parhelia last night
Actually, if i HAD the money, this is what i would really want to get, as naughty as it makes me feel admitting so. But being a v5 owner for almost 3 yrs. I ran into the fact that the games i wanted to play NOW would not run on a v5, and I bit the bullet this summer and decided to bank on the Ti4200 until next year.
